The Law Enforcement Officer Thread

If you don't count getting shot and smoke inhalation charges.

http://www.rappler.com/nation/160854-duterte-colombia-president-gaviria-idiot-drug-war

And president Duterte called out ex-Colombian Presidbet Gaviria for comments on using the AFP in his anti-drug campaign.

I was referring to the two assclowns that walked into a police visibly armed and in body armor.

So, Canada's worst serial rapist (that we know of), Selva Kumar Subbiah has been deported to Malaysia.

The Malaysian internet's response so far has been... well, "clusterfuck of blatant misogyny and racism" about covers it.

That said, apparently Canadian parole reports describe him as someone completely unrepentant and likely to reoffend, yet was released under a mandatory release order despite being ineligible for parole.

So, um, how does this mandatory release thing work? Come to think of it, what was the original jail sentence anyway?

I think he served the bulk of the sentence, 24 years. At that point people get let go if there isn't a reason to hold them. And since we can just deport him....

And I don't believe that indefinite detention was a thing in the 90s, though I could be wrong.

Essentially, he served his time and now Ottawa is washing their hands of him.

edited 11th Feb '17 8:24:14 AM by Rationalinsanity

No rest for the RCMP as several are deployed at the Ottawa/Quebec borders with America to confront refugees. Some were arrested though for processing. A few helped them go across.

A day in the life of two cops working in District XVIII of Budapest, ladies and gentlemen.

On patrol when an emergency call came in that a 13 year old girl walking her dog went onto thin ice which collapsed under her, dumping her into 2-3°C water. Upon arriving to the scene two minutes after receiving the call, the cops saw that the ice was way too thin for them to crawl to her position, so they discarded their vests and swam through the icy water in their shirts, breaking the ice with their elbows and getting cut up by said ice in the process. They pulled her out (her body temperature was 27°C by this point), wrapped her in a heated towel and turned her over to the paramedics - then they went back to the precinct for a hot shower and a change of clothes, and went right back to patrolling without missing a beat, as if they hadn't just saved someone's fucking life.

Seems like there are again protests over a police shooting, this time in Anaheim CA. Although nobody got hurt in the shooting this time.

I could get that it would depend on country, but in general, which ranks have to be the one to make arrests if the arrest is warranted?

In the state of Texas, any sworn peace officer can make an arrest with "probable cause". Now there is some discretion here - a homicide detective won't pull someone over for traffic violations unless someone did something stupid: hit and run, was fleeing the scene of a crime etc.

In general, any sworn officer has the power to arrest. Some states extend that to private security-in that they can arrest someone to be turned over to the courts.

And that's before you get into what happen in places where a citizens arrest can be made.

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/05/20/science-shows-torture-doesnt-work-456854.html?rx=us Old article, but I wonder if folks know anything about the interrogation methods proposed there.

Which part are you talking about? The torture techniques or their alternatives?

I know of one thing police use that has some efficacy. Flipping a suspect to get them to give information on a more valuable suspect.

The rapport building method is old school espionage style approach and used for sources.

The alternatives mainly.

The casual manipulation approach while time consuming is what builds up intel networks deep into sensitive institutions.

So boring wins over flashy? Why am I not surprised?

Because Boring, but Practical dictates nearly everything in life.

I've seen a share of people spilling out information to cops because the police were...nice to them.

Yeah, it's pretty widely known that building a rapport with someone is a great way to get them to spill their secrets.

Problem is, this runs against the "common knowledge", which is that torture looks badass when Jack Bauer or Batman is doing it and is guaranteed to get you 100% accurate results, usually within the hour before credits roll.

People forget that Batman didn't get accurate timely info that way, at least not in The Dark Knight.

And then there are the various cop shows, where the protagonist is such a badass, he can get the suspects to make a full confession, with nothing more than his stony, silent presence in the interrogation room...

Never underestimate what some people are willing to do to escape an awkward silence.

I gotta wonder if torture advocates really believe it works or if they're just bullshitting an excuse to hurt people they hate.

edited 2nd Mar '17 6:37:11 AM by M84

Food for thought, eh?

Got in an argument with my mother-in-law over the torture thing. I argue against it because A) it doesn't work anyways and B) it sacrifices our moral high ground, particularly when you consider A.

She argued we should keep doing it because 9/11, and then implied that I'm not old enough to remember what that was like. I rather heatedly pointed out that I was 17 when that happened, and that pretty much my entire adult life was spent with the US at war, and that unlike some other people (hint:Her), I actually enlisted and had been serving through most of that chunk of American history.

I ended up unfriending her on Facebook. We don't talk much on politics since then. She has my phone number when she needs to get a hold of me for something family-specific, and we tend to be pretty friendly when discussing literally anything else.

I mean if the real reason you want to torture people is because you want to hurt them for what they did to your country...at least own up to it. Don't pretend that you need to do it to gain intel.

I agree with your points. When friggin' North Korea is calling the USA's treatment of prisoners brutal (though in their case they are probably complimenting us) and actually have a point...

edited 2nd Mar '17 6:48:40 AM by M84

Crossposting from European Politics:

Finnish Police move to shut down neo-Nazi Finnish Resistance Movement