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Ok it was mentioned there is not a thread for Law Enforcement Officers (LEO for short)and other similar jobs for discussion.

This is for discussing the actual jobs, ranks, training, culture, relations to military bodies that exist, and any other variety of topics that can arise pertaining to the World of Policing.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#3201: Apr 4th 2015 at 4:53:17 PM

Oh, by the literal ghost you did mean that. [lol]

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#3202: Apr 4th 2015 at 5:01:07 PM

Yeah, anyway once the feds got their hands on you you're cooked.

Oh really when?
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#3203: Apr 4th 2015 at 5:48:32 PM

Everyone who lives even a strange life leaves a bit of a trail. Someone who has none would set off a lot of red flags. Even super secret squirrel type folks have something to say leave this person be or do this with them. People with fake Identities have the bits of that identity.

Who watches the watchmen?
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#3204: Apr 4th 2015 at 6:25:52 PM

Depends what you are doing for the FBI. Agent is a vague term. Nah, they don't wear suits all the time.

Bad shirts and dockers is more likely. If they go into the field they will be dressed accordingly.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#3205: Apr 4th 2015 at 6:58:01 PM

Okay, building up to the question:

You are an FBI agent, ICE, whatever. You got a ghost, one with potentially dangerous skills at that, and had him locked up.

Now, where would you start with investigating his identity?

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Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#3206: Apr 4th 2015 at 7:31:19 PM

Internal database, various confidentiality levels as needed. Cross reference with Interpool, CIA, ATF, and what not. Then you start pulling from your allies' database.

If there is no hit? Yeah. I feel sorry for that guy.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#3207: Apr 4th 2015 at 7:34:24 PM

If there's nothing coming up and he's got a very particular set of skills that's gonna be setting off some serious red flags with the CIA and he's probably gonna get a happy vacation to god knows where to have god knows what done to him until he spills the beans.

Oh really when?
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#3208: Apr 4th 2015 at 7:39:20 PM

Yeah, that sounds like a spy to me. Send him to the CIA and Gitmo.

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Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#3209: Apr 4th 2015 at 7:42:33 PM

That could be an asset to your story.

He comes up blank and is on route to the end of a hole in say, Pine Bluff Arkansas or some other shithole nothing place, and does his ninja moves and escapes.

But to be accurate, sometimes they drug the hell out of them before transport to prevent troubles. This can always be worked around though.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#3210: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:36:05 PM

So here's how it goes.

This ghost, he's not from Earth but from a fantasyland (I loathe the word another dimension, for some reason). He is fast and strong enough to dodge bullet point-blank, lift and throw small cars around.

However, he is a pretty nice guy, usually Lawful Good and Chaotic Good at very worst. When he somehow ended up on Earth, the first thing he did was rescuing a man getting mugged, but on the process almost (unintentionally) killed the muggers.

The police soon arrives, but he doesn't understand English, or any language that matter. However, he recognizes the uniform and formal body language and tone, so he figures out that they must be some form of civil servant and follows them very willingly, without any resistance whatsoever.

So once he's in police station and he has nothing coming up, so FBI comes up. What I plan to have next is the main villain protagonist whisking him away.

Now, he has some connection within law enforcement, and what would be the best way that someone can pull some strings and essentially steal a ghost, a dangerous one at that?

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#3211: Apr 4th 2015 at 9:38:50 PM

Only people who could possibly poof something out from under and intelligence organization's nose is another, better intelligence organization.

Like GRU or something.

edited 4th Apr '15 9:39:03 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#3212: Apr 4th 2015 at 11:22:18 PM

Infiltrate the transfer team.

Have the big bad alerted when so many databases are flagged by the same search, especially if the villain is looking for this guy too.it would behoove him to keep an eye on stuff like that.

Then the bad guy sets up a situation where they pose as the feds coming to get him, kidnap him between route (if the civies drugged him this could help), or something like that. You have to be careful because if the feds know they lost a team, the whole civilized world will be looking into this and breathing down every neck in the world to get him.

And if there is anything humans can get right is that we can be persistent pains in the ass when required.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#3213: Apr 4th 2015 at 11:39:34 PM

Double post because I am using a phone, apologies....

But if he isn't human then you can feel comfortable having him be drugged. It just won't affect him and he can go through the motions until duty calls then spring to action.

But if they can't understand him, they won't waste time moving him.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
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#3214: Apr 5th 2015 at 5:43:50 AM

If he's cooperating with the police but unable to communicate that's go to raise some serious red flags, especially if someone gets smart and pulls out a world map to figure out where he's from.

A ghost will set of alerts, a ghost who comes in willingly but appears unable to communicate, that's gonna set of all sorts of alarm bells.

Best bet for him being whisked away is for the villain to impersonate the FBI guys sent to pick him up. If he's got the contacts to pick up these kind of searches begin run though government databases then he could probably get a van and a few guys with fake FBI badges to the station before the real FBI do.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#3215: Apr 5th 2015 at 5:47:32 AM

Those posts made me realize...

If the feds realize he's gone, it's going to attract a lot of attention. I mean, a potentially dangerous human being that can escape the feds? That should raise some red flags.

And if he is kidnapped...It's going to get much worse, because he is kind of person that someone would risk attacking or impersonating the feds for.

You can't just fucking win here!!

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
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#3216: Apr 5th 2015 at 5:49:40 AM

[up] Yes, this is the sort of thing the President might hear about sharpishnote .

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#3217: Apr 5th 2015 at 5:51:06 AM

Why would a President hear about this?

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#3218: Apr 5th 2015 at 6:17:08 AM

Because you're looking at a cross state manhunt for someone that in a best case scenario is a dangerous agent for a likely hostile power. If they don't twig he's not from earth the assumption will be that he's an agent of a foreign power, if they do twig that he's something else they're going to lose their shit completely. Either way the president has to know.

Plus once news leaks out you don't want the White House (and especially the president him/herself) getting blindsided by a question about an escaped super human.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#3219: Apr 5th 2015 at 6:56:15 AM

If your villain is that awesome, your best bet would be to have him intercept the local cops before the feds are even notified.

Very possible that way.

The FBI has plenty of people that speak every language so yeah, he will disappear fast. So you can make your villain that much more astute even supernatural by having him act as the feds and what not. The state police would hold the guy until the feds show.

Depending what state he is discovered in I can help you a bit more.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#3220: Apr 5th 2015 at 7:56:30 AM

That'd be your best bet really. Once the feds get properly involved there's not much anyone outside of like the KGB can do to get him out and even then it's iffy.

Now busting him out of the local county lockup before they finish his background check is much more possible.

Oh really when?
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#3221: Apr 5th 2015 at 9:18:48 AM

That would probably require your bad guy to sense him or what not.

If the locals can't communicate linguistically, they will be quick to pass him on lest they get stuck with too much paperwork or be accused of foul play or rights violations.

I give you about 24-30 hours window before the feds would be on the way to get him.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#3222: Apr 5th 2015 at 12:52:01 PM

Intercepting him before the feds get involved...that does sound much more simple. Okay, I'm going with that.

As for what state..mmhmm, never thought about that aspect.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#3223: Apr 5th 2015 at 12:55:44 PM

Probably be best if it was some backwoods police department in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. If it's like the NYPD or something he's not getting out. Those guys are better funded and armed than some militaries.

Granted they're like tiny African and southeast Asian militaries but still.

Oh really when?
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#3224: Apr 5th 2015 at 2:08:40 PM

[up]Though, even the "backwoods" departments in the South have gotten their hands on some serious military surplus lately.

Most recent escapes that come to my mind down here have been from detention centers with shoddy security. Small towns only leave one or two guys to cover them sometimes, and their fencing is usually in some state of disrepair.

edited 5th Apr '15 2:08:46 PM by carbon-mantis

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#3225: Apr 5th 2015 at 2:35:21 PM

I'd say a bust out isn't needed, impersonating the FBI transfer team or simply having an insider FBI agent turn up to do the transfer is more viable.

edited 5th Apr '15 2:35:31 PM by Silasw

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