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Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#2451: Oct 26th 2015 at 7:17:49 AM

Not to mention that 2.0 is supposed to teach people how to handle mechanics and job skills. 3.0 expects you to have mastered all of it.

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#2452: Oct 26th 2015 at 7:29:38 AM

[up]They are working on that "Beginner's Hall", which might help.

Also, I think it's completely fair to give a small advantage to Zeta owners, especially if the first step involves material costs. After the insane material costs of the Zeta, it would be nice to get some of that back. And like I said, it fully supports changing classes while you're at it because you could for example trade in a WAR Zeta for a DRG Anima.

edited 26th Oct '15 7:30:13 AM by Anura

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#2454: Oct 26th 2015 at 10:21:50 AM

Is that Wo D taking on Ravana?

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MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#2455: Oct 26th 2015 at 11:18:20 AM

[up] Of course "Jiminez tongue"

Speaking of which I think I cna hazard a guess as to what happened to the Caterneu Warriors to make them Warriors of darkness

Back during the Calamity, when Louisoux sent them tot he future, he used the spell Flow, forbidden by Sharawan for its side effect which include but may not be limited to blindness and death. From what we cna gather form Y'sholta's use of the selfsame spell, she was supposed to teleport Thancred (and possible Yda, Papalymo and Minfilia as well) away from the Syndicate's forces, and was teleported herslef into the Lifesteam. Imagine that in a larger scales. Some Warriors (The Legacy players) made it out alive and wholly intact, others (The CG players including the Midlander WAR, the Roegadyn PLD, the Lalafell WHM, etc) didn't and became assimilated into the Lifesteam..until recently

Because of this these characters and others not not only spend longer amount of time int he Lifesteam, they would had been embedded into it were it not from intervention form certain forces. The resulting intervention naturally had them Came Back Wrong in a more mental way as opposed Y'sholta's side effects. Hence The Lalafell, Roegadyn and Midlander? All Evil. The Mi'quote Bard and the Blackmage also seen in Awnswers? Evil. Anyone else that appeared in Answers and was Flowed? Well, you get the drift.

Another possibility is that they became Primals, due to the people's faith in the Current Warrior of Light coming to a head, allowing some misguided people to force the CG characters back form the dead to aid them but the results Gone Horribly Wrong and the results predictably made a league of Primals akin to Thodian and his Knights 12, with the side effect of irreversible corrupting the souls of those used as the basis of these primals. A more simpler theory is that the Ascians just convinced them of the "true nature of the echo" while they were fishing them out of the Lifestream and then switched sides, giving Elidibus a reason to think that it would also work on the current generation of warriors (assuming he wasen't just taunting them with that)

Of course this all just speculation at this point. Even the use of Flow (but that is the most likely part to eb true)

edited 26th Oct '15 11:32:14 AM by MorningStar1337

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#2456: Oct 26th 2015 at 11:30:57 AM

That's assuming the Wo D is actually a bad guy and I'm not sure about him or Elidibus being that. Plus an organization that represents Chaos would have Anti Villains amongst its group alongside assholes like Lahabrea.

Even Dissidia made sure to do that with all its villains on Chaos. Though at the least Lahabrea and the female one were attempting the 8th Rejoining (whatever that is) without the consent of the other Ascians.

edited 26th Oct '15 11:31:20 AM by OmegaRadiance

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MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#2457: Oct 26th 2015 at 11:35:42 AM

[up] You make a good point, Edlibius seems to have an air of Anti-Villainly around him, though I expect the Warriors of Darkness to be similar, and I also still expect them to resent the land that appeared to forsaken them by keeping them trapped in the Lifestream

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#2458: Oct 26th 2015 at 11:36:33 AM

Ok, so if these guys got thrown into the lifestream, how did they come back out? Who called them back? Why weren't they completely absorbed by the lifestream? How come they aren't a Handicapped Badass like Y'shtola?

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#2459: Oct 26th 2015 at 11:37:28 AM

I assume this meant Zodiark blessed them.

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MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#2460: Oct 26th 2015 at 12:00:38 PM

[up][up] Like I said, in my theory, the Lifestream did affect them, but not in the same way as Yshtola. The Came Back Wrong in a more mental state. The who should be obvious, and At this moment I do not know if they were completely absorbed into the lifestream and returned as primals, or if they just took longer and were more embedded then Y'stola (being there 5 year longer than her) but are still relatively easily retrievable.

These warriors are enigmatic figures now. All we know if they look like the people that vanished at Cartineau (just with dyed artifact armor) and they they invoked The Worf Effect on Ravana (apparently, we didn't see the results of that fight yet). Oh and their working with Elidbius and can breathe in space, but their origins and nature seem to be shrouded in mystery

edited 26th Oct '15 12:20:00 PM by MorningStar1337

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#2461: Oct 26th 2015 at 12:14:05 PM

I don't actually think Eldibus is an anti-villain, or at least think it's very unlikely. There's nothing to indicate that his goals are different from the other Ascians but he's more about playing the long game as the mole/chessmaster.

MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#2462: Oct 27th 2015 at 8:36:59 AM

Just a heads up, the next artbook is coming out int he next few months, the minion is a mammet version of Relm Arrolry

Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#2463: Oct 28th 2015 at 3:24:48 AM

So, the latest seasonal event. Who's the second pumpkin head apparition? The first one was an imp, but why does the second lend a hand?

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Cganale Since: Dec, 2010
#2464: Oct 28th 2015 at 4:18:05 AM

No one knows. That one always shows up to help undo the would-be carnage created by the others.

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#2466: Nov 5th 2015 at 11:10:45 AM

Armor looks boring

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#2467: Nov 5th 2015 at 12:20:20 PM

looks like Dynasty Warriors or Samurai Warriors armor

i want it

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#2468: Nov 5th 2015 at 12:40:37 PM

XI's stuff tended to be pretty tame and practical. Subligars aside. The AF gear was great, though.

lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#2469: Nov 5th 2015 at 12:43:50 PM

I can use that with a Yasha weapon and New Years Kabuto to make nice Samurai glamour grin

Cganale Since: Dec, 2010
#2470: Nov 5th 2015 at 5:57:16 PM

Yeah, having three Doman characters, one of whom is a proper samurai, I am ready as fuck for that armor.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#2471: Nov 5th 2015 at 6:58:33 PM

Whats the date window for that?

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artfulscruff Since: Apr, 2010
#2473: Nov 6th 2015 at 9:04:13 AM

Is it wrong that the thing I'm most excited about is old mounts now being able to fly? I've been wanting to fly my Ahriman forever. And it's cool that we can ride other mounts with the chocobo summoned now (I hope the chocobo still follows rather than just vanishing, but I doubt it'll do that). And a new haircut that I think is more suitable for one of my characters!

And something about new story quests and Void Ark or something, I dunno. Whatever.

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#2474: Nov 6th 2015 at 9:10:25 AM

I know it'll slow down for you at higher levels, but it's nice that I can run my favorite level 50 dungeons fit what I hope is at least Dusk Vigil tier experience.

edited 6th Nov '15 9:10:50 AM by Hashil

Cganale Since: Dec, 2010
#2475: Nov 6th 2015 at 2:13:37 PM

The ability to get carbontwine/coat just from running WoD and from hunt seals is very relevant to many of my sub-50 characters, and more useful things to spend centurio seals on is very welcome. My main has had capped seals for two months now.


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