Despite everything that's changed in Roshar, one fact remains constant: it sucks to be Kaladin.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.True fact is true.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.It is likely that (at the very least) the important people are still alive. Not that it is going to make coming home a happy reunion.
edited 1st Oct '14 1:38:21 PM by PanzerGeneral
A signature line isn't worth much if I can’t actually write down my signature...I'm so pumped for more Lirin.
edited 1st Oct '14 1:47:32 PM by majoraoftime
Lirin is awesome. Wonder what's happened to Laral, though. Speaking of, remember how it was mentioned in relation to Ialai that a palindrome name is seen as slightly blasphemous?
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.I just read the first chapter. I really hope we get the next Kaladin chapter before Book 3 is out. I also really want to see Lirin. Although if Kaladin's luck holds up, he is likely to be dead.
Although I personally want him to make his way to Uritiru. I mean it's not like the army would turn away a surgeon who is the father of one of the two initial Knight Radiants.
edited 11th Jan '15 10:36:55 PM by 32ndfreeze
"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome RobFinished my reread of WOR. Even better the second time around. I littered the thing with highlights and notes — there's just so much to think and theorize about.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.I've just barely gotten into a reread of Way of Kings, but one bit of fridge I had: Kaladin is named after Kalak. That's why Kalak narrated the prologue. I was always wondering, since they have nothing in common (Kalak founded the Willshapers, not the Windrunners). Maybe that was blatantly obvious to everyone else, but I thought it was clever when I finally noticed.
Huh, that's pretty cool. Would be kind of cool if we get a meeting between the two at some point and they insult each other about their names
"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome RobWell, Kaladin is stubborn as all hell.
So, as to recap our Radiants and what we know of them as of the end of WOR:
- Windrunners: Adhesion and Gravitation, representative is Kaladin, patron is Jezerezeh, spren is honorspren. Chaotic Good / Screw the Rules, I'm Doing What's Right! mentality.
- Skybreakers: Gravitation and Division, representative Szeth, patron is Nalenelan, spren is likely highspren (although I'm not sure how Nightblood factors into that, especially considering Nale called it a Shardblade). Lawful Neutral / The Unfettered. Rivals with the Windrunners.
- Dustbringers: Division and Abrasion. Didn't like the name, preferred Releasers. Destructive.
- Edgedancers: Abrasion and Progression, representative Lift. No clue what type of spren Wyndle is.
- Truthwatchers: Progression and Illumination, rep Renarin. Can see the future.
- Lightweavers: Illumination and Transformation, rep Shallan, patron is Shallash, spren is Cryptid (liespren). Apparently they all had some sort of photographic memory.
- Elsecallers: Transformation and Transportation, rep Jasnah. Good at traversing Shadesmar.
- Willshapers: Two of Transportation, Cohesion, Tension and Adhesion. No reps. Now if onky we knew what "axial interconnection" means.
- Stonewardens: Two of the previous. Patron is Talenelat. No reps yet. Stubborn.
- Bondsmiths: Two of the previous, probably Cohesion and Tension. Rep Dalinar. Spren is "godspren". Only three at a time, probably due to the spren restriction.
I think that's about all we know. Oh, and we've yet to see where Lopen will fall, assuming he's a full Radiant and not an auxiliary as some of thr bridgemen were mentioned to be. Did I miss anything?
The current guess is that Lopen will be a Stonewarden, due to the stubbornness thing. And yeah, I'm very curious about how Nightblood will act as a spren for a Skybreaker. I wonder if Vasher basically created an artificial spren back before Warbreaker, so he can do that sort of thing. Or maybe Nale has some ability to step in and manually fix things.
I think it's more likely that Lopen will be a squire, with just the enhanced strength and healing from Stormlight, rather than a fully-fledged Radiant.
edited 26th Jan '15 11:21:48 AM by JimmyTMalice
"Steel wins battles. Gold wins wars."If squires got enough powers to regenerate arms, it's a wonder they didn't steamroll the Voidbringers every desolation.
Thought: I would've thought the Bondsmiths would be under Jezerezeh, what with the leadership and all, but apparently not. Are all the Heralds listed somewhere?
Thought the second: I really wanna see Skybreaker abilities. Considering they appear to combine the Windrunner's Lashings and whatever it is that Dustbringers do that can destroy rocks.
I wonder what Cohesion and Tension entail. We haven't seen those Surges either.
Edit: Heralds
edited 26th Jan '15 12:29:53 PM by JimmyTMalice
"Steel wins battles. Gold wins wars."Ars Arcanum says Weak and Strong Axial Interconnection. Which could be basically anything. Ishar seems the likely Bondsmith candidate, and it looks like they're in order.
edited 26th Jan '15 12:44:51 PM by Ninety
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.Oddly, there doesn't seem to be a list of known Herald/Radiant Order connections. So:
- Windrunners: Jezrien, attributes Protecting and Leading.
- Skybreakers: Nale, attributes Just and Confident.
- Dustbringers: Chanarach, attributes Brave and Obedient.
- Edgedancers: Vedel, attributes Loving and Healing.
- Truthwatchers: Paliah, attributes Learned and Giving.
- Lightweavers: Shalash, attributes Creativity and Honesty.
- Elsecallers: Battar, attributes Wisdom and Care.
- Willshapers: Kalak, attributes Resolute and Builder.
- Stonewards: Talenel, attributes Dependable and Resourceful.
- Bondsmiths: Ishar, attributes Pious and Guiding.
Man, Sanderson sure loves his Theme Tables.
edited 26th Jan '15 12:46:54 PM by Ninety
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.Oh yeah. You'll also note that each Order has one of the Surges of the Order before it. Windrunners have Adhesion and Gravitation, then Skybreakers have Gravitation and Division, Dustbringers Division and Abrasion...
Yeah, they're in order. I do think that each order has a unique power not shared with either adjacent order, though. Kaladin's sensing the wind and storms, Shallan's photographic memory, and Renarin's foresight are associated to no specific Surge.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.That's an interesting way of looking at it. Here, I theorized that each Order has two Surges plus a third from the interaction, plus the passive ability, but maybe the passive ability is the third "Surge," for lack of a better word.
I think that's likely. Surges are pretty well defined in-universe as fundamental forces, so it seems unlikely that the interaction between two technically creates a third one, but I do think that there's an unrelated power gained from them. Of course, whether this comes from the interaction of the Surges, the Nahel bond or somewhere else is the question.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.That is also similar to a popular theory about two shards interactions creating another magic system. As in Scadrial with feruchemy.
"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome RobFeruchemy is born from the interaction of Ruin and Preservation? Must've missed that.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.The epigraphs in Hero of Ages point out that allomancy is of Preservation, hemalurgy is of Ruin, and feruchemy is the balance between them.
First chapter of book 3. Kaladin chapter.
He failed to reach home before the everstorm.