Old Magnificent Bastard thread
Welcome to the Magnificent Bastard (MB) cleanup thread! This thread is where we clean up or cut already-existing entries.
If you're looking to add new entries, please see the approval thread.
IMPORTANT: Before you begin any discussions on this thread, please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List
Here, you'll find explanations of the criteria for the trope as well as our rules/procedures for approving and cutting candidates.
What goes through this thread?
- Cut requests. If you believe a MB has been approved and they do not count, this thread is where you propose their removal. To know how to go about this, please see the FAQ folder on the Administrivia page, where the process is explained in detail.
- If we ever need to consider cutting multiple examples without individually reviewing them (e.g. if we discover widespread plagiarism with a particular troper's MBs), the initial discussion will be on this thread and we'll then escalate to the mod team (as described here) to get a formal consensus if we decide to recommend a mass cut.
- If an entry was put on the wrong subpage/YMMV page, you may propose where they should be moved to.
- Full rewrites of existing entries, including expansions, trims, and ground-up rewrites. If your rewrite is approved by the thread, feel free to add it to the drafts page so that other users can check grammar and the like before it is included with the rest of the weekly swaps.
- If an entry on a work's YMMV page doesn't match the entry on the media subpage, you can bring it here to discuss which entry works better.
What does not go through this thread?
- New candidate proposals - as stated before, those are done on this thread.
- Unapproved wicks - if a Troper encounters either of these kinds of wicks, they can be cut with no approval.
- Any MB link on a non-YMMV page - as a YMMV trope, it should not be linked on those pages regardless of any cleanup effort. The only exception is if the wick is being used within the definition of another trope.
- If an MB link on a YMMV page refers to an unapproved character. If it refers to an approved character on any such page, the wick can stay. On the other hand, if the unapproved character being linked to sounds like they might have promise (and you don't feel like checking it out for yourself), feel free to mention it on the approval thread - someone may already know why they don't count, or it could invite a brand new discussion!
- Proposals for images, quotes, and videos of already-approved MBs - quotes and images are proposed on the approval thread, while videos can be uploaded normally as they are screened for approval by the moderation.
- Crosswicking examples to YMMV pages - if an example has already been approved and added to the main page, you do not require any special permission to add the example to a work's YMMV page (assuming the work has a page already). If a YMMV page doesn't exist yet, then you can make it yourself, but either way, feel free to just add the example without asking.
- Small changes to existing entries - these can simply be done on a Troper's own prerogative with no approval.
- Spelling and grammar fixes.
- Pothole changes.
- Minor rewordings.
- Spoiler tags.
While these changes do not require any kind of approval, it is requested that should you make any of these changes, you do one of the following:
- Make the same changes on the relevant Sandbox page, then add the Sandbox to the list at the bottom of the drafts page. This will add the Sandbox to the weekly swaps and ensure that the edits end up on the relevant locked page. If the Sandbox is already listed, then once you make the edits, your job is already done!
- If you don't know how the Sandboxes work or simply don't have the time to find it, then you can simply post on the thread about the changes you made. Someone else can then make the edit on the relevant Sandbox and add it to the weekly swaps.
- Alternatively, you can simply request that the change be made directly to the locked page on the Locked Pages thread. Members of this thread keep track of that one, so we will ensure that the changes are made in the Sandbox so that it doesn't get deleted during the next swap.
Again, these changes don't require any approval, but we prefer to keep the entries on the YMMV pages and the locked pages the same in order to avoid any miscommunication or errors between entries, so if you do make the change, we would greatly appreciate it if you could ensure the change is made on the locked page as well.
As a final note, we do not care what other sites have to say regarding whether or not a character counts. We have our own criteria and they have theirs for their MB equivalents; while they are similar, they are not exactly the same and should not be treated as such. Another site removing a character from their equivalent should not be a reason why a cut is proposed here, and if this is the case, it will likely lead to mod intervention.
Other than this, once again, welcome to the cleanup thread, and we look forward to your contributions!
Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 14th 2024 at 11:36:43 AM
Please, bullman, by all means.
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
I would also be willing to collab as well. So, before I go ahead, anyone want to collab?
Edited by Bullman on Dec 10th 2022 at 9:57:33 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Classy, Refined, Unstable
Me and Ravok snagged Violent Night for CM which will be due for discussion on the 16th there but would anyone oppose me tackling it for this thread when the time comes? I'm seeing it tomorrow so I'll have my thoughts prepped.
Oh, Mr. Kennedy, you entertain me. To show my appreciation, I will help you awaken from your world of clichés.
You have the PFP for it, that's for sure, Wet
The Moron
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
I don't know if the approval threads will be opened by then, but I think you're good to snag it here!
I haven't seen the show, but I appreciate the offer! Same thing as before where you'll have to wait until the approval threads are opened, but once it comes, I think you'll be good to handle it.
Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Dec 10th 2022 at 11:14:12 AM
Classy, Refined, Unstable
Alright I'll mark it down in the dates just so it's there.
Also I'm fine with you saying your bit Bull!
Oh, Mr. Kennedy, you entertain me. To show my appreciation, I will help you awaken from your world of clichés.
Here are my writeups:
- Metal Fight Beyblade:
- (Kyoya)
- Tsubasa Otori is a spy working for the WBBA. Appearing before Gingka, he teaches him an important lesson to improve his skills as a blader before letting him win once he'd put it into practice. Later, he joins the Dark Nebula, proving his skills to Doji and outwitting Yu multiple times with his bey's unique tricks as he battles him to a tie. Helping the Dark Nebula and remaining largely unsuspected, he sneaks through the building in hopes of discovering L-Drago's secrets, and succeeds, only to be caught by Yu and Doji. He is then attacked by the Dark Nebula's bladers and then Ryuga, defeating the former and putting up a good fight against the latter until he has to be saved by Phoenix, who encourages him to become Gingka's friend for real and help him take down the Dark Nebula. With a suave, respectful demeanour, Tsubasa remains a close ally of Gingka's, using his wits to help bring Team Gan Gan Galaxy victory.
- Phoenix, real name Ryo Hagane, is a mysterious masked blader and secretly the long-lost father of Gingka. Having lost to Ryuga and passing the Pegasus bey onto Gingka several years prior to the story, Ryo faked his death, laying low until the time was right. Making his debut taking Gingka's Beypointer from Tetsuya, he challenges Gingka to earn it back, crushing it and making him lose all his points once Gingka loses, in hopes that this would strengthen Gingka's strength and resolve to defeat Ryuga at Battle Bladers and remind him what Beyblading is truly about. Later appearing to rematch Gingka, Ryo is defeated, and gives Gingka his points back so he can enter the tournament. Later appearing to save Yu and Hyoma from Doji, Phoenix's mask is shattered after winning, revealing his identity as Gingka's father and the leader of the WBBA, and gives Gingka the determination he needs to win the final battle.
Edited by Iceaura39 on Dec 10th 2022 at 4:28:56 PM
It is I, the narrator, categorising addict and writer of books you haven't read.
Thank you, thank you!
Side note: If you notice you've got something pending that's not in my list feel free to post here or PM me to yell at me to add it, it got a little hard to follow with the two months off haha
Edited by 43110 on Dec 10th 2022 at 11:35:06 AM
There's also a character I got approved who I would like to propose we cut. Is that okay?
It is I, the narrator, categorising addict and writer of books you haven't read.
By all means
Yup, cutting we’re good to do here!
Bull, may I get in on the Wednesday discussion with you?
Wasn't Frank Bannister approved? I don't think Rav ever did his writeup since it's not on the YMMV for The Frighteners. Also, Black Adam is another for discussion on each thread too by the way.
The character in question is Mikado Sannoji from Super Danganronpa Another 2.
I thought he was a keeper initially, but on a closer look, he's really smug and sadistic. After Nikei's hand is blown up by his gun, Mikado's response is to make an Evil Laugh and mock him about how pathetic his attempt to ruin his plans was. He laughs when his Voids are executed, and he frequently taunts the surviving students about how doomed they are.
It is I, the narrator, categorising addict and writer of books you haven't read.
Well, I have zero issue going to a cut
Classy, Refined, Unstable
Likewise fine with cutting there.
Oh, Mr. Kennedy, you entertain me. To show my appreciation, I will help you awaken from your world of clichés.
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Cut Mikado Sannoji.
future: That is cool and I am happy to. Let's take this to PMs.
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Cut Mikado, I did Frank and he's ready to go on the drafts.
Oh my mistake. Looks good.
Not sure if I want to do Black Adam myself by the way, but he's obviously up for grabs though.
The Salesman’s Stolen Mask
Cut Mikado.
Am I allowed to propose a rewrite for a character on this thread, or is there some kind of prerequisite I have to meet?
Balls idk
Feel free!
Gotta love Jaws!
Mikado seems like a cut. Aside from that, all the writeups are looking good!
"For a second there, I mistook ya for a threat... but you're just a dirty little man!"
Cut Mikado.
You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the mid
Cut Mikado.
You guys mind if i handle the Wednesday discussion or is Lighty already doing that like he is on the CM side. I already have two candidates that I am unsure of.
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread