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MasterN Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button from Florida- I mean Unova Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#76: Mar 6th 2022 at 8:10:58 PM

Yes.

One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#77: Mar 7th 2022 at 2:54:42 PM

If anyone has thought of any crowner options, please post a list of them.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#78: Mar 7th 2022 at 9:53:51 PM

Upvote to maintain and downvote to remove from conditions.

  • A button should be recurring/consistent.
  • The response should be disproprtionate / temporary Unstoppable Rage.
  • The nature of the button is oddly specific/absurd/minor, instead of being directly insulted/upset/threatened, which would make angry anyone.
  • A character can only have 1-2 buttons, otherwise it's Hair-Trigger Temper.
  • A character should be happy/stoic normally and anger is atypical/out-of-character.

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 7th 2022 at 10:05:20 AM

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#79: Mar 8th 2022 at 8:26:47 AM

Crowner hooked with the above options

Infitroper Since: Oct, 2016
#80: Mar 8th 2022 at 8:38:19 AM

Just stating for the record that a upvoted all of them.

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#81: Mar 8th 2022 at 9:07:18 AM

Might be worth considering giving BB a name better reflecting it's intended use (like "Trivial/Arbitrary Berserk Button").

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#82: Mar 8th 2022 at 9:09:20 AM

Renaming is off the table. We are only discussing redefining the trope and rewriting the description on this thread.

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#83: Mar 9th 2022 at 4:04:54 PM

That's a lot of votes by now.

I wonder if the downvoted option is Beware the Nice Ones actually.

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Zuxtron Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel from Node 03 (On A Trope Odyssey)
#84: Mar 9th 2022 at 6:06:11 PM

Regarding the one that says direct insults don't count, could an exception be made when only a specific type of insult triggers the Berserk Button? For example, someone who will laugh off most mockery, except for insults about his hair, which make him fly into a blind rage.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#85: Mar 9th 2022 at 6:07:07 PM

I mean, that's what the trope mostly is already.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
MasterN Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button from Florida- I mean Unova Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#86: Mar 9th 2022 at 7:53:47 PM

I think that is acceptable.

One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.
GastonRabbit MOD Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#87: Mar 11th 2022 at 8:01:09 AM

Calling in favor of the following applying to the definition:

  • The response to a press of the button should be disproportionate and/or temporary Unstoppable Rage.
  • The nature of the button is oddly specific/absurd/minor, not something that would make any person angry (such as threatening a loved one, making a direct insult).
  • A character can only have one or two buttons. Any more and the character has a Hair-Trigger Temper.
  • A button should be recurring/consistent.

The following was downvoted and thus does not need to apply:

  • A character should normally be happy, calm, or stoic, and anger is atypical/out-of-character.

The description probably needs to be adjusted, so get a sandbox if necessary. After that, everything else will be deferred to the cleanup thread instead of TRS.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 11th 2022 at 10:01:56 AM

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mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#88: Mar 11th 2022 at 11:08:55 AM

Will it still count if the button being recurring/consistent is an Informed Attribute? I.E. we only see it in one episode but another character says something like "Never do this to them, they always get upset"?

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#89: Mar 11th 2022 at 12:01:29 PM

^ Sounds like a discussed version.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#90: Mar 11th 2022 at 12:46:33 PM

Implied, more like.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#91: Mar 11th 2022 at 12:51:12 PM

It would be stated to be the trope and we'd see the reaction, so "discussed" feels more likely since the "button" part is what's informed.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#92: Mar 19th 2022 at 7:37:14 AM

So, any ideas on how to rewrite the description to better fit the new requirements. I notice that Sandbox.Berserk Button (which was made when this thread was sent back to LTP) has some notes on it.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#93: Mar 19th 2022 at 8:33:12 AM

In light of the redefinition, I wanted to ask about this entry on The Whiskey Vault:

  • Berserk Button: It's repeatedly made clear that while good-natured ball busting among their friends and fans is allowed and even expected, the one thing that neither Daniel nor Rex will abide is genuine whiskey snobbery, i.e. actually putting people down for their preferences.

I didn't really think it fit when I originally added it, but I was at a loss as to what else it could fit. With the redefinition, it really doesn't fit; does it fit something else, or should it just be removed?

Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
nw09 Since: Apr, 2018
#95: Mar 19th 2022 at 5:23:51 PM

Is the new definition any different? All of it seems more-or-less the same.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#96: Mar 19th 2022 at 5:36:57 PM

It mostly is, yeah.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
MasterN Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button from Florida- I mean Unova Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#97: Mar 20th 2022 at 11:35:25 AM

We just adjusted it a bit so we could begin cleanup, as well as definitively nail it down. Speaking of, is it time to move back to the cleanup thread and get to work?

One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.
gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
Musician/Composer
#98: Mar 21st 2022 at 6:52:18 AM

Think so.

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#99: Mar 21st 2022 at 6:58:04 AM

Don't we have to tweak the description first?

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#100: Mar 21st 2022 at 10:24:43 AM

Do we? The only change is that the character doesn't need to be normally calm and nice.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness

Trope Repair Shop: Berserk Button
8th Mar '22 8:21:53 AM

Crown Description:

Berserk Button is misused as "anything that makes a character angry". This crowner is to determine the conditions to make a Berserk Button. Vote up to maintain the requirement. Vote down to remove the requirement.

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