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#1: Jan 14th 2022 at 8:32:23 AM

Contemptible Cover, as per the description and the laconic, is about works whose covers are "misleadingly lurid", featuring some form of sexual or violent (but most of the times sexual) content that is nowhere to be found inside. Well, I noticed that not all the examples follow these lines. I made a wick check, and these are the results:

Out of 50 wicks:

  • 15 are valid examples of this trope.
  • 5 may be valid, but depend entirely on weblinks or are just ZCE
  • 1 is valid, but written in a very complaining way
  • 6 feature lurid content on the cover, but the actual work also delves in such kind of stuff (and 4 of them actually state that the cover shows an actual scene from the work)
  • 2 are examples of Advertised Extra where the extra just happens to be a Ms. Fanservice
  • 4 are misplaced examples of Covers Always Lie
  • 9 are about Off-Model cover artwork
  • 8 are either non-valid ZCE or just "this cover looks bad"

What should we do?

Edited by PhantomDusclops92 on Jan 14th 2022 at 5:34:44 PM

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#2: Jan 14th 2022 at 9:03:35 AM

A rename? Some of the misuse doesn't recognize that the cover has to be misleading, and we might be using a word with too broad a definition.

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#3: Jan 14th 2022 at 9:03:37 AM

I add that the wick check was done entirely on the external wicks, because the misuse is rampant in the actual trope page. The videogame folder is mostly misplaced Covers Always Lie examples, natter and complaints. Gonna do an analysis later...

[up] What about Clean Work, Dirty Cover?

Edited by PhantomDusclops92 on Jan 14th 2022 at 6:04:29 PM

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#4: Jan 14th 2022 at 9:13:57 AM

I remember the Mega Man games having examples for their ugly US covers.

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#5: Jan 14th 2022 at 9:18:39 AM

[up] A lot of 90's/early 2000's games have Contemptible Cover examples stating "This cover looks ugly and the characters look nothing like they should" in overly complaining tones.

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#6: Jan 14th 2022 at 9:24:37 AM

I was going to suggest a rename. The name "Contemptible Cover" IMO doesn't quite match the meaning, due to being too broad as 𝕋𝕒𝕓𝕤 said.

Clean Work Dirty Cover might be good. Maybe also Misleadingly Dirty Cover or Misleadingly Lurid Cover.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jan 14th 2022 at 12:24:46 PM

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#7: Jan 14th 2022 at 9:27:39 AM

[up][up][up][up]I'm thinking more along the lines of Misleading(ly) Lewd Cover or Misleadingly Prurient Cover. The work need not be clean. [nja]What [up] suggests.

Edited by Tabs on Jan 14th 2022 at 9:28:42 AM

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#8: Jan 14th 2022 at 9:42:24 AM

[tup] with the rename, but I don't have much energy to come up with a name atm besides something like out-there like Faux Fanservice Bait.

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#9: Jan 14th 2022 at 9:43:34 AM

[tup]rename

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#10: Jan 14th 2022 at 9:44:27 AM

Misleadingly Dirty Cover is fine for me.

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#11: Jan 14th 2022 at 9:57:13 AM

It's supposed to also be for covers that are much more violent than the media itself is though, and I don't think Misleadingly Dirty Cover or varients conveys that- violence isn't usually considered dirty.

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#13: Jan 14th 2022 at 10:41:43 AM

[up]That works.

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#16: Jan 14th 2022 at 11:18:17 AM

"Lurid" still works with violence. Maybe Misleadingly Filthy too.

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#17: Jan 15th 2022 at 9:34:53 PM

All of these names sound worse than the current one. Pretty sure this can be handled with just a cleanup - a lot of these misused examples are very old.

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#18: Jan 15th 2022 at 11:14:24 PM

Didn't even realize the trope was specifically about misleading dirty covers and not just dirty covers in general. None of the examples on the music subpage feel particularly "misleading" to me, and that's the subpage I'm most familiar with.

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#19: Jan 15th 2022 at 11:38:21 PM

I'm not convinced that this is meaningfully different than Covers Always Lie.

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#20: Jan 16th 2022 at 3:25:22 AM

How does this trope differ from Sexy Packaging, especially since Contemptible Cover has examples from works that don't actually have physical covers?

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#21: Jan 16th 2022 at 9:08:24 AM

[up] In fact, they seem almost the same trope. Judging from the laconics, Sexy Packaging is "Product haves a woman in bikini on the cover", while Contemptible Cover is "A clean work haves a borderline pornographic cover". The former trope however haves way less examples, with many that should be moved on other tropes or are just ZCE based on external links.

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#22: Jan 16th 2022 at 9:14:17 AM

Starting to think a merge is in order.

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#23: Jan 16th 2022 at 9:17:50 AM

A reminder to not take laconics for face value, they are all fan-made.

The description says it's also about violent imagery, not just Fanservice Cover. If it's rewritten to equally focus on both points, it would help the confusion.

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#24: Jan 16th 2022 at 9:21:53 AM

Do any of the examples from the wick check actually show violence, or are they all sex?

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#25: Jan 16th 2022 at 9:30:46 AM

The wick check doesn't, so in the current state it may be for the best to merge or disambig.

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