Character-Specific Pages (CSPs) are created when individual characters have so many trope examples that they can't reasonably be included on a shared page.
The Administrivia Character-Specific Pages policy details the rules that apply to these pages. All Character-Specific Pages must also follow the basic How to Create a Character Page policy, as well as the wiki's more general policies about spoilers and examples.
This cleanup thread handles the following tasks:
- Reviewing and approving new CSP proposals. All new potential CSPs must be reviewed and, if necessary, cleaned up before they're created.
- Agreeing on page names for new CSPs.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a new CSP is created.
- Reviewing existing CSPs if there's a concern that they need cleanup, or if it's believed that the character may no longer qualify for a page.
- Merging existing CSPs into other character pages when necessary.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a CSP is removed/merged.
- Creating, updating and cutting redirects, as necessary, to reflect these splits and merges.
Crowners are not normally required but, where appropriate, can be used to formalise decisions on any of these points.
If a character no longer qualifies for a CSP, it's often more practical to turn the CSP into a redirect than to cut the page entirely. This keeps the page history visible to users, and also helps to steer offsite 'inbound' traffic (search engine results) to the right place. With that in mind, cut requests for CSPs may be declined and referred to this thread if they don't have a clear consensus.
Comments linking back to this thread can be added to CSPs when needed - e.g. to confirm their creation was approved, to warn tropers that a cleanup is in progress, or to note the date and outcome of a more recent review.
We also have some more general threads for character page help -
- Character Page Cleanup
: for trope misuse, zero-context examples, spoiler tagging issues etc.
- Are these character tropes?: for queries about whether particular tropes belong on a character page or on the work's page.
This is not a policy discussion thread, it's a cleanup thread — any requests for policy changes need to be raised in Wiki Talk.
Mod update 07 Mar 2024, reflecting new CSP policy, updated again 22 Mar 2024 to mention redirects for removed CSPs
- Other options must have been tried first, like splitting pages into further groups.
- The character's folder is cleaned up beforehand, fixing any Zero-Context Examples and Wall of Text entries and removing any outdated, misused, or non-character tropes.
- A character's folder is at least 6,000 words/40,000 characters (with spaces). Here is a byte counter.note
- The current character page bypasses technical limitations and requires a split up.
- A single character takes up the majority of a page or is disproportionately bigger than other folders.
Splitting a character into their own page is a major change and needs to be run by the community before it is enacted. Even if you believe a character meets these requirements, they should be run through this thread first. Having other tropers take a look can help spot issues you may not notice or believe to be issues.
Per How to Create a Character Page, character-specific pages should only include tropes that describe the character. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask the Are these Character Tropes? thread.
If you have concerns with a general character page, they have their own separate cleanup thread, as do the self-demonstrating character pages.
Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 22nd 2024 at 10:22:03 AM
Hi! :3
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
Agreed, keep only Muzan intact
Characters.Hazbin Hotel Charlie Morningstar (87,424 characters) was split off from Characters.Hazbin Hotel The Hazbin Hotel Staff (currently 108,636 characters)
If they were remerged, the Staff page would be 195,170 characters.
Remerge?
He/Him
That split was unilaterally done by Doug Devils Mutt
Who I'll ping here
Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation project
Son of Vladimir, still waiting for Godot.
Yeah, my bad, sorry.
I assumed Charlie's folder had reached enough tropes to qualify for a solo page. Took me a while to remember it's based more on the number of characters.
The link for the Character Specific Page already existed (at the moment, it was a redirect), so it'd no problem to return everything to its place, if that's okay.
Definitely Not Notable
The Super Mario Logan Main Characters is close to 250,000 bytes(at around 243,000 bytes) so once it gets 250,000 bytes but no characters have 40,000 bytes, what happens with the subpage? Because there might be a lot of lag for slow Internet people.
Son of Vladimir, still waiting for Godot.
So, about the remerge, should it proceed?
uwu
Characters.Go Go Loser Ranger Sosei Akabane has been made a few weeks ago, but it has only 22,803 characters and its former page, Characters.Go Go Loser Ranger Dragon Keepers, has 38,738 characters, which is far below the requirements for a CSP. Permission to put back and cut?
THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
merge back ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/thumbs_up_emote.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
A simple solution could just be a split into Main Characters Parts 1 & 2?
Edited by lexii on Mar 31st 2024 at 10:03:54 AM
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
So, South Park merges?
Also:
- South Park: Other Students is 234k+ characters, but giving the warning.
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
I would do something like pages for The Main and secondary kids.
Edited by Bullman on Mar 31st 2024 at 11:23:49 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Animu
From The 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You, we have:
- The 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You (2,100 chars, just an index for the rest)
- The 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You: Protagonist (30,433 chars)
- The 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You: 1 to 10 (144,125 chars)
- The 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You: 11 to 20 (102,442 chars)
- The 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You: 21 to 30 (64,593 chars)
- The 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You: Girlfriends' Families (27,197 chars)
- The 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You: Others (25,758 chars)
I think the protagonist, the family members and the minor characters are easy mergers to the main character page.
Edited by animuacid on Apr 1st 2024 at 12:46:43 PM
Hi! :3
Sounds good
Animu
Already done and turned them into redirects. The girlfriends' pages stay as they were.
So, looking through Genshin Impact: Fontaine and investigating some character folders, I noticed that Navia's folder is clocking in at around 40,405 bytes. The page itself is (around the time of this writing) at around 241,816 characters, which is kind of close to the 250,000 threshold needed for the original page.
I don't know if this is enough to warrant giving Navia her own character page. I'll only do it if I get the green light to going forward with making the character page.
Edited by KonoeJerry on Apr 1st 2024 at 4:01:56 AM
It's not just a boulder, it's a Rock. :^)
Animu
The second criteria in Character-Specific Pages talks about splitting into other groups before starting with an CSP. So I'd make a page for Spina di Rosula or even better, make a new page that contains Wriothesley and the rest of the characters related to the Fortress of Meropide.
Wrio already has his own page, so I'll run an investigation on the notable character group's byte count:
Fortress of Meropide: 32,706 bytes
Spina di Rosula: 61,441 bytes (with Navia's folder consisting of almost two-thirds of the Spina di Rosula's content)
I'll wait for opinions from others before going forward with any potential options.
Edited by KonoeJerry on Apr 1st 2024 at 4:59:05 AM
It's not just a boulder, it's a Rock. :^)
Animu
I was talking about merging everyone from meropide to wrio's character page. I like the idea because we wouldn't need to create another subpage for Fontaine.
Looking at the pages for Characters.Phineas And Ferb. There are only two character pages split off from Characters.Phineas And Ferb Main Characters here:
- Characters.Phineas And Ferb Main Characters - 66,439 bytes
- Characters.Phineas And Ferb Candace Flynn - 56,244 bytes
- Characters.Phineas And Ferb Heinz Doofenshmirtz - 55,988 bytes
- Splitting back the two pages, the byte count will reach 178,671 bytes. Merge back?
Hi! :3
Yes, sounds good
He/Him
Merge back
low-poly Shinri
Any thoughts on these character pages for Characters.Fire Emblem Three Houses?
Characters.Fire Emblem Three Houses
- Fire Emblem Three Houses Other Main Characters
- Sandbox.Fire Emblem Three Houses Black Eagles Part One
- Sandbox.Fire Emblem Three Houses Black Eagles Part Two
- Sandbox.Fire Emblem Three Houses Blue Lions Part One
- Sandbox.Fire Emblem Three Houses Blue Lions Part Two
- Sandbox.Fire Emblem Three Houses Golden Deer Part One
- Sandbox.Fire Emblem Three Houses Golden Deer Part Two
As for hololive English - Generation One -Myth-, Mori, Gura, and Watson can keep their pages
Edited by angeldusthotel on Mar 30th 2024 at 2:43:43 AM