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It has been discussed on the wiki that the trope pages of shows aimed at younger children have repeated issues, ranging from misuse of darker tropes added to make the shows seem "cooler" to presumably older audiences, to massive amounts of complaining on more-maligned series. I have also noticed large amounts of natter, formatting, and ZCE issues on some of these pages.

Inspired by an idea from ~War Jay 77, this cleanup has been created to help deal with all of these issues, as well as others that come up in regards to these pages.

ilovewildkratts1 Since: Sep, 2012
#51: Jul 30th 2022 at 7:11:52 PM

You'd be surprised. PBS Kids as a network has a pretty large fandom. And some of their shows in particular (Ready Jet Go!, WordGirl, and Odd Squad, to name three) have very sizeable fandoms. I can't attest to other preschool networks and shows, though.

With this show, there's not really enough of a fandom for it to qualify for the Fandom Rivalry trope, at least from what I've witnessed.

Edited by ilovewildkratts1 on Jul 30th 2022 at 7:13:13 AM

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#52: Jul 30th 2022 at 7:21:43 PM

[up] from experience, PBS Kids attracts the most Periphery Demographics, but some other shows get them too. I am a Sesame Street fan. I have seen Bluey and Thomas the Tank Engine fans frequently. I have less frequently witnessed fans of The Wiggles and Barney. On the other hand, if say, for instance, there was a Ryan's World page somewhere on here and it talked like it had a fandom, I'd heavily doubt what it says because I don't think anyone over the age of 7 likes his videos.

Edit: Turns out that beyond my rhetorical question, Ryan ToysReview is a page, and I'm honestly not sure whether it is treating it like it has a Periphery Demographic or not, it's hard to tell. There are certainly more subpages than I expected.

Edited by AlmightyKingPrawn on Jul 30th 2022 at 10:32:22 AM

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#53: Jul 30th 2022 at 11:42:16 PM

I worry about this thread skewing into a "what adult would even care about preschool shows LOL" mentality, so we should focus on things like accuracy and misuse and try to not insult or condescend people for adding to these pages at all. I haven't seen much of it yet but I did see touches of it so just a reminder. In fact, we want people who are fans of these shows to be active in here so they can fact check.

Sizable fandom or not, the Fandom Rivalry entries are likely misuse because they're more about hating the show than the fans anyway, and should be cut.

Edited by mightymewtron on Jul 30th 2022 at 2:42:38 PM

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#54: Jul 30th 2022 at 11:45:12 PM

[up]

I worry about this thread skewing into a "what adult would even care about preschool shows LOL" mentality, so we should focus on things like accuracy and misuse and try to not insult or condescend people for adding to these pages at all.

That was not the intention of this thread—I can see it derailing in that manner but this was based on an idea from War Jay 77.

Actually one reason I created this thread was because preschool shows tend to, more often than not, have formatting/misuse/ZCE issues.

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#55: Jul 30th 2022 at 11:55:09 PM

Oh no, I'm not accusing you or Jay of anybody! Preschool shows generate a lot of overanalysis so I appreciate the cleanup existing, I'm pretty sure I was around when it was being discussed. But the above "Who the hell cares?" video link felt rude, and I also wanted to clarify that these fandoms do exist.

I'm not even in any preschool show fandoms (besides I guess WordGirl, which is more for elementary school anyway, but I don't fuck with its fandom) but we should remember they can exist and not rule out any fandom-related tropes. It's just a matter of misuse and reading too into things.

[down] No hate, same timezone and I'm tired too lol.

Edited by mightymewtron on Jul 31st 2022 at 3:09:21 PM

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#56: Jul 31st 2022 at 12:05:40 AM

[up] Oh no I agree, the "Who the hell cares" video link was quite rude. And it is helpful to clarify these fandoms exist.

I just misinterpreted your comment because it's 3 in the morning where I am and I cannot sleep and I'm very tired.

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#57: Jul 31st 2022 at 7:57:43 AM

Guys, if I did something wrong, I'm sorry.

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#58: Jul 31st 2022 at 6:29:00 PM

Oh no you did nothing wrong! Like I said it was really just one comment, plus a slight derail(?) into whether these shows in general had fandoms at all. But for individual shows it's a fair question of whether fandom YMMV items apply.

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#59: Aug 1st 2022 at 4:53:20 AM

[up][up] Do not worry. You did not do anything wrong. Threads get minor derails all the time. You're perfectly fine.

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PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#60: Aug 9th 2022 at 11:52:16 PM

Can I post stuff I found on Thomas & Friends here? Part of me thinks it deserves its own thread due to being a Long Runner and the many adult fans who edit the pages, but idk.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Aug 10th 2022 at 4:38:23 PM

Thomas fans needed! Come join me in the the show's cleanup thread!
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#61: Aug 10th 2022 at 2:19:35 AM

[up] Sure, but if you feel it needs its own thread go right ahead and make it. Arthur has its own thread after all, and there was talk of giving Ready Jet Go! one as well.

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SpongeBat1 Since: Jul, 2012
#62: Aug 18th 2022 at 8:52:05 PM

Unrelated to complaining or examples but I just noticed the character descriptions on Characters.Bluey (for the Heelers at least) are copied almost word-for-word from the official site. Is that allowed? 'Cuz it feels like it would fall under Plagiarism.

Edited by SpongeBat1 on Aug 18th 2022 at 9:52:36 AM

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#63: Aug 18th 2022 at 8:58:21 PM

Indeed it's plagiarism, the descriptions should be rewritten or removed.

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#64: Aug 19th 2022 at 4:32:37 AM

[up][up] There's a plagiarism cleanup thread for that, actually.

EDIT: Trippy Dippy 69 added most of them I think.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Aug 19th 2022 at 7:33:31 AM

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FromtheWordsofBR Since: Apr, 2012
#65: Aug 30th 2022 at 10:13:52 AM

Somewhat related but while I edited my post to say this I wanted to boost it. I apologize if that Family Guy clip I posted came across as rude. That wasn't my intention, what I was really trying to say was "people care enough about these specific shows enough to have big fights about them??".

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#66: Mar 18th 2023 at 6:34:51 PM

There's a really weird example on Recap.Bluey Seesaw:

  • Stealth Pun: When Bandit sees that little Pom Pom is upset over her size getting in the way of interacting in other games, it's strongly implied he intends to help the pomeranian with her problem. He goes over to his daughters and intentionally disrupts their see-saw game with his heaviness, deliberately setting himself up as their antagonist. In other words, Bandit invoked Hate Sink.

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#67: Mar 18th 2023 at 10:18:48 PM

I guess cuz he "sinks" into the ground? But I doubt that's intentional.

(Though there is a probably accidental joke in there about a Heeler being the heel.)

Edited by mightymewtron on Mar 18th 2023 at 1:23:53 PM

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#68: Apr 10th 2024 at 6:35:19 PM

Another Bluey one, this time from Characters.Bluey, under Grandpa Bob:

  • Abusive Dad: Downplayed; In 'Fairytale', he fails to get Bandit's name right, and shows No Sympathy over him being jinxed, even calling it a "good start" and saying he wishes he could make it so none of his kids could speak so they won't be so noisy.

That doesn't sound strong enough even for a downplay. It just sounds like teasing IMO.

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#69: Apr 10th 2024 at 6:40:55 PM

Yeah, that's somewhat mean but doesn't seem like abuse.

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