Just a Face and a Caption: Role Ending Misdemeanor

The picture does not illustrate the trope well on its own, only showing a NY Post cover of Tiger Woods following a major scandal, without saying whether that led to him being fired (which is said, but only in the caption.)

I can't think of any alternative images myself for this trope, and I believe it could be potentially hard to illustrate.

Yeah, that's a pull.

I definitely lean on removing the image altogether.

And yeah, it might just be too hard to illustrate unless someone makes a comic about it or something.

Not to mention, this oughta be NRLEP, and fictional examples are hard to come by.

I recall seeing a mention of this in WesternAnimation.Bojack Horseman from it's entry on Murder by Inaction (it was discovered he let someone OD, and he became a social/professional pariah as a result).

...why should it be NRELP? That’s the essence of the entire trope.

Anyways, pull.

Edited by jandn2014 on May 12th 2021 at 10:28:34 AM

Fair point, though that is why it's listed as trivia, not trope. As such, I don't think the page image (if any) should be any one real life example, because ROCEJ and flame-bait risk. A fictional example would be ok.

Recycle it.

It's not NRLEP, it's trivia, but myself and others have pointed out before that there's rampant misuse. Some tropers just seem to love cataloguing people who got fired over some scandal, even if those people are not creators. We already cut a bloated /Politics page.

Edited by Morgenthaler on May 14th 2021 at 12:45:47 PM

Bumping. Any other opinions about the image?

It can go. The idea of a magazine/newspaper cover is sound tbh, but current is not illustrative at all.

Reiterating opposition to using real life examples. I don't watch Bojack Horseman, but I'll try and find a usable version of the example I described above.

Pull current.

x2 This trope is literally almost nothing but Real Life examples so that's a really odd position to take.

This is trivia, not a trope. It discusses behind the scenes reasons for changes in characters and casting, so it's technically all about real life happenings.

I agree with using newspaper/magazine covers, but am having trouble finding actual examples. Many of the high profile ones are easiest found on websites (which we have done before like on I Am Not Pretty):

But can't say I like it too much.

Edited by Synchronicity on May 15th 2021 at 9:25:17 AM

Maybe? My problem with it is that it's the image, not the headline, that immediately catches my attention.

For this page, it's OK to find a real life example, but an in-universe one would good either, provided that the image is obvious enough.

I'm just gonna suggest BUPKIS on this, given that using a real life example would probably crash directly against the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment.

Edited by WackyPancake on May 19th 2021 at 10:26:18 AM

Maybe one that's actually a misdemeanor, like Jamie Waylett (Crabbe) being dropped from Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows after being charged with cannabis possession.

Edited by rjd1922 on May 19th 2021 at 3:36:21 AM

I think we can still use a Real Life example if there’s at least one of these factors in play:

• Little controversy around the misdemeanor (as in there’s not many disagreements or debates about whenever the person is guilty or not)
• The act that led to the end of the person’s career is something that anyone can say is bad (such as rape, murder, etc; anything political would probably be ROCEJ-violating)
• The event occurred a significant period of time in the past

Edited by jandn2014 on May 19th 2021 at 4:37:29 AM

For the record, the BoJack entry mentioned above comes in the last season and is a massive spoiler, plus there's nothing that'd illustrate it.

I can go with 14. I don't know why we're so hesitant to use real life images when this is a trivia item about real life. Some examples might be more controversial than others, but the crux of the item is the objective truth that somebody lost their job over certain controversy. Whether we agree with the decision doesn't matter.

Because we'd rather avoid Flame Bait, which is a crux of this website.

That said, the Jeffrey Tambor image is not even good on aesthetic merits. Might as well just copypaste the online article into the trope page.

I agree with , in that if a real life event can go to the example list, then it should be usable as an image too (provided the image actually does illustrate trope, of course). I don't think ROCEJ rules should differ for the two cases. However, 14 just doesn't look good. Fictional examples would be better if we can find it, but if not, there should be no problem with a real life one.

Bumping. I think I could find a better image than the Tambor one.

Maybe Louis C.K. getting his show cancelled? Don't like that one but I don't know what to use.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on May 24th 2021 at 11:05:33 AM

I'd like to use a tabloid image, albeit one that's more illustrative than the current, if only because there's more visual interest than an article screenshot.

I also found this news screenshot◊ which explains the situation, but it's pretty much text-reliant.

Edited by mightymewtron on May 24th 2021 at 2:14:01 PM

Yep, that's practically JAFAAC, as you could replace the text with anything else, and it would make exactly as much sense.

^ That's a pretty high standard which we don't always seem to adhere to. I am thinking of the screenshots from The Colbert Report or things like Word of Gay or Hollywood Hype Machine.

Edited by eroock on May 25th 2021 at 4:05:04 AM