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Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#26: Dec 15th 2020 at 3:15:54 PM

[up][up] Ok, so basically I Work Alone is that a character expresses that he wants to work alone (regardless of whether he actually does so) and is primarily a character trait; Ineffectual Loner is a character who tries to work alone and turns out to be pretty bad at it, is related to The Complainer Is Always Wrong, and is primarily a plot trait; Informed Loner is when the narrator or the work itself states that a character is always alone, but these descriptions don't seem to match the visuals (e.g. he is always alone except when the story focuses on him), and is primarily an Informed Attribute.

Does that sum it up?

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#27: Dec 15th 2020 at 3:22:57 PM

Well, that's my read on it.

Let's look at some "doesn't like to work with others" wicks to be sure:

  • Cancer has trust issues and thus bears a tendency to do whatever she can and then some on her own. Even then, she expects cooperators to follow her whims and direction unquestioningly. This is presented as something of a character flaw that is both addressed and called out on. Acknowledged as a flaw - is this enough to be Ineffectual Loner?
  • Angie, who constantly asserts that she doesn't need help or a partner. Not even when moving a sofa. To be fair, she tucks the sofa under one arm and casually walks off with it. Doesn't say whether or not she's taught teamwork, although moving the sofa by herself implies she doesn't need it.
  • Mr. DJB speculates that the reason why he goes after Bernie on his own is because getting the rest of the force involved would lead to an investigation over all the stuff Hopkins stole. One-time thing, doesn't apply to this "character trait" definition.
  • Raylan dislikes working with other people. While most of the time he doesn't need any help, he's often making his job a lot harder without backup - this reaches critical mass in the season 2 finale, where he survives two separate situations only because he had Boyd and the other Marshals following him in secret. He eventually grows out of it by Season 4 - he finally realizes that just having Rachel, Shelby, Tim or Bob stand next to him makes responding to unforeseen events much easier. Ineffectual Loner
  • Sonic prefers to go it alone and do things his own way; thus, he repeatedly refuses Amy's attempts to get him to rejoin the Resistance. Character trait
  • Nikita's policy for the last three years has been to turn away or otherwise get rid of all parters assigned to her, as she much prefers to work alone. Robin is yet another attempt by her mother to accept a patner Character trait

I do wonder if that definition skirts too close to Aloof Ally...

Edited by Synchronicity on Dec 15th 2020 at 5:23:57 AM

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#28: Dec 15th 2020 at 3:34:30 PM

My impression of Aloof Ally was that it is about their attitude towards those they work with. So a character who is working with others but is unfriendly and dismissive towards them would qualify.

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#29: Jan 15th 2021 at 9:56:40 PM

Clock is ticking!

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30: Jan 17th 2021 at 11:53:45 AM

It appears we've these options:

Anything else?

Edited by Synchronicity on Jan 17th 2021 at 1:54:11 PM

LaundryPizza03 Maintenance? from Texas Since: Aug, 2020
Maintenance?
WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#32: Jan 17th 2021 at 6:31:55 PM

Sounds good to me.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#35: Jan 22nd 2021 at 6:23:41 AM

Attached it.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#36: Jan 23rd 2021 at 7:41:26 AM

Since we got an active crowner, clock's shut off.

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#37: Jan 28th 2021 at 4:46:32 PM

I think we have consensus.

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crazysamaritan MOD NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#38: Jan 28th 2021 at 4:53:28 PM

It is 11:1 in favour of [Define I Work Alone as a character who prefers to work by themselves or refuses to work with others, regardless if they actually do end up working with others.]


Please begin cleanup.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
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Berrenta MOD How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#43: Mar 15th 2021 at 9:18:16 AM

Clock is ticking.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#44: Mar 19th 2021 at 5:31:03 AM

Clock expired; closing.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#45: Mar 20th 2021 at 9:52:52 AM

~Synchronicity asked whether this can be completed still in the metathread, so reopening and moving back to TRS.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#46: Mar 20th 2021 at 10:14:19 AM

Thanks, Septimus. I'm in the process of sorting on-page examples onto the sandbox. I expect to finish that over the weekend.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#47: Apr 2nd 2021 at 8:13:10 AM

Two weeks late, but Sandbox.I Work Alone is ready for review.

But TBH, I don't think I have any enthusiasm for cleaning this one.

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#48: Apr 2nd 2021 at 1:02:30 PM

Looks good to me. Covers a variety of portrayals.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#50: Apr 11th 2021 at 8:30:13 AM

Sandbox swapped in to main page.

Looking at the wicks, I don't think wick cleaning is super necessary for this one, since many of the wicks are "character doesn't like to/refuses to work with others".

Edited by Synchronicity on Apr 11th 2021 at 10:31:28 AM

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