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Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 29th 2024 at 10:55:20 AM
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while making a new page, how long does it take for the WikiWord to be approved for display?
Edited by SpongeBobFan2004 on Feb 17th 2024 at 11:57:41 AM
he/him
Generally not more than a day, but it depends how many mods are online and how many requests are in the queue.
There have been days where it's reached 50+ (e.g. when we've had recap pages for whole seasons of shows submitted), and we do need to do a couple of checks before approving or declining.
If there's a problem, we'll normally post in the custom title thread and ping the relevant troper to alert them.
Edit: For what it's worth, there are 38 there at the moment.
Edited by Mrph1 on Feb 17th 2024 at 6:28:06 PM
Wallpaper Escapee
I’ve just created a forum thread about Lyric Interpretations only to realise AFTER I posted it that the purpose of my thread is already served by the Wild Mass Guessing / Music page of this Wiki.
Nobody else has contributed to it yet; is it possible to remove my Lyric Interpretations thread, since the WMG/Music page makes it a bit redundant?! Thanks!
he/him
I've locked the thread. We could nuke it entirely, but we tend to save that for cases where the content is problematic, not just duplicates.
For future reference, you can holler that sort of request to contact the mods directly - it doesn't normally need a post here.
One-Track Mind (he/him)
Is adding spoiler tags to Moments and Headscratchers subpages a suspendable offense?
I'm lovin' it. (My Troper Wall)
Lost in Space
he/him
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Not immediately, but it'll earn notifiers. Enough notifiers can lead to a suspension.
Likewise, if we know a troper has received notifiers and been told not to add the tags, but carries on, that might get a suspension. Ignoring feedback and consensus is often a bigger issue than misunderstanding rules.
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The concise version.
Edited by Mrph1 on Feb 21st 2024 at 5:51:25 PM
he/him
We now have a new Administrivia policy page for handling translated works:
Troping Works Created in Other Languages
At the moment this only covers works with official English translations, but we'll be expanding it as policy decisions on other scenarios are made.
If you have an interest in these discussions, the policy decisions will be via the Translation Policy thread on Wiki Talk and final wording for any additions or changes will get consensus via the Outdated Administrivia thread before any updates are made.
One-Track Mind (he/him)
I honestly don't think I've seen a single instance of the word "Damn" throughout my entire time on the forums. Is it a forbidden word or something?
I'm lovin' it. (My Troper Wall)
Uh ... no? There are lots of instances of it being used.
Edited by SeptimusHeap on Mar 4th 2024 at 12:58:19 PM
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the Retromancer
Lack of something doesn't mean it's forbidden, and everyone doing something doesn't mean it's allowed.
Swearing on forums isn't forbidden, but I assume gratious amount would get a direct reply to tone down.
Edited by Amonimus on Mar 4th 2024 at 3:00:35 PM
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Disasturbator
> I honestly don't think I've seen a single instance of the word "Damn" throughout my entire time on the forums. Is it a forbidden word or something?
weird,I've used it plenty of times
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Redmess
We don't have a swearing filter or anything, though excessive use will probably get you told off by other tropers and/or staff. But generally speaking people around here aren't that sweary anyway.
Optimism is a duty.
Lost in Space
Yeah, we have no direct rule against swearing on the forums. Most posters exercise decorum and taste, since that's the culture we've tried to foster. But a cuss every now and then is damned satisfying.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
A procrastination in of itself
So I did message one of the mod team about this a while ago but I never got a responce.
With the US Politics thread now locked what are the rules on discussing US political issues in other threads? Specifically legal/criminal issues/events in threads on such things. As we’ve discussed US police in the OTC Law Enforcement Thread and US court rulings/Trump legal judgments in the Legal Eagle thread (normally after a video on said subject but now preemptively due to a video being expected).
So are we good there or do people need to back off? I’m especially nervous about such discussions starting to leak out from the semi-controlled environment of OTC.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Redmess
The discussions on Legal Eagle all seem to be civil and not disruptive, at least.
I suspect that not having the pressure cooker of the US Politics thread helps a lot. People seem a lot calmer without one thread that contains any number of topics related to US Politics in general.
Edited by Redmess on Mar 5th 2024 at 10:36:08 AM
Optimism is a duty.
A Self-inflicted Disaster
Perhaps it is because those threads only discuss a specific aspect of US politics, i.e. the particular case mentioned in Legal Eagle's recent video, or the US political issue of police reform, etc. If we were to ban discussion of US Politics at all, a lot of threads will not be allowed to discuss anything US related (because everything is political!), and even some threads about other countries, like the War in Ukraine thread, will be affected (because of the US' outsized influence on global issues).
"Enshittification truly is how platforms die"-Cory Doctorow
the Retromancer
The Legal Eagle thread did concern me because it appears to have difficulties keeping itself relevant to the channel. Because the youtuber discusses politics, every time Trump is brought up, there appears a page of posts discussing Trump personally in matters that have nothing to do with the videos.
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Redmess
It is on-topic though, since Devin is following all of Trump's court cases, especially those concerning his re-election campaign.
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That is still tangentially related to his legal troubles, though. But I agree that was starting to veer off-topic. The thread did self-correct though, which is a good sign.
Edited by Redmess on Mar 6th 2024 at 10:28:01 AM
Optimism is a duty.
the Retromancer
I refer to a discussion about Trump taking refuge in another country and his business connections aboard, that aren't related to Trump's election, trials, or anything Devin has brought up so far.
Oh, bother.
This is the bit that concerns me about the Legal Eagle thread too. Discussion in the Legal Eagle thread should be based on the actual vids' content, not what we think will be content in a future vid.
Disgusted, but not surprised
Redmess
But Devin has been talking about this case already, so talking about the result seems logical enough.
So the basic question is then: can we talk about the result of a discussed court case when that result was not around at the time that video came out? We do allow discussing updates on old videos otherwise, after all, when there is new information relevant to that old video.
Optimism is a duty.
he/him
Talking about the result of a court case itself sounds a little different to talking about Trump — hypothetically — fleeing the country to avoid consequences.
If that's not a possibility that's been mentioned in the web show, then it feels like an off-topic tangent to me.
The law in the night
I'd argue that discussing the possible consequences of the ruling for Trump would become out of topic easily for the Legal Eagle videos.
Inter arma enim silent leges
I see no reason to regulate Trope Talk unless there's a clear problem (though TV Tropes Forum could be mroe detailed). If people have issues with a specific trope, they are free to express them and others can weight in. If people disagree, discussion dies, otherwise it can prompt TRS. If people post wrong stuff there, then it needs more perma-locked pinned threads or a centralized FAQ thread.
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