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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#51: Sep 8th 2020 at 11:21:35 AM

[up]There's a difference between moving pages and cutting them.

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#53: Sep 8th 2020 at 11:28:17 AM

[up][up] There's a difference between duplicating pages and moving pages. Duplication was not an option.

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#54: Sep 8th 2020 at 11:35:50 AM

[up][up] Moving a page to a different namespace is not the same thing as getting rid of its content.

[up] What do you mean "duplicating"?

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#55: Sep 8th 2020 at 11:38:38 AM

Right, but we said cut the page, not the content.

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#56: Sep 8th 2020 at 11:42:45 AM

The top option is to move the content to a dedicated thread in the forums (specifically into Writer's Block). That means we cut Sandbox.Fanfic Ideas so that we don't duplicate the content. Although, I think adding it to the Cut List was premature:

  1. The crowner needs to be closed
  2. The thread needs to be created
  3. Then the pages can be cutlisted.

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HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#57: Sep 8th 2020 at 11:44:05 AM

You can't "move" a page on TV Tropes as such — you can only paste the source to a different namespace (or forum post, as in this crowner) and cut the old page.

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#58: Sep 8th 2020 at 11:46:59 AM

Mods do have a tool to actually move a page, when that's necessary and/or desirable.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#59: Sep 8th 2020 at 1:02:11 PM

Not-cutting was never on the table. Are the leading two options lose enough that we need a runoff crowner, or should we discuss the winner?

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#60: Sep 8th 2020 at 2:08:59 PM

The forum thread option in the crowner doesn't really imply that the content would be moved to a thread but rather that a new thread would be opened to house new fanfic ideas.

I don't think all of the content needs to be saved. I think a better option for saving the content would be to use the Internet Archive. We don't need to store this information anywhere and it would clutter a single thread were it moved to one.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#61: Sep 8th 2020 at 3:37:33 PM

That's because I'm not familiar with Writer's Block but the suggestion was that Fanfic Ideas content would go there. So it's the "put it on forums" option, while the others are "put on another location of the wiki", "put on yet another location of the wiki", and "just cut".

Pinging Fanfic Ideas participants since the crowner may be called soon. Maybe a handful of absolute favorite ideas can go to the forum, not every single one.

Not sure if any of those worked.

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#62: Sep 8th 2020 at 3:40:21 PM

~IúkaSylvie's handle starts with an i, not an L.

Also, if the ping worked, the PM should be in your outbox.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Sep 8th 2020 at 3:41:34 AM

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EvilerThanThou Since: Feb, 2019
#63: Sep 8th 2020 at 3:44:42 PM

Not sure what else I could add to the argument than what I've said already.

Edited by EvilerThanThou on Sep 8th 2020 at 3:48:21 AM

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#64: Sep 8th 2020 at 3:47:06 PM

I still find it a bit suspicious that "create Writer's Block thread" and "Move to Just for Fun" were neck-and-neck for the longest time until the latter got a rapid influx of downvotes.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Sep 8th 2020 at 6:47:27 AM

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#65: Sep 8th 2020 at 3:50:01 PM

Wow I forgot I was involved in this discussion. Yeah, a forum game sounds rad.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#66: Sep 8th 2020 at 3:53:40 PM

[up][up] I think we can presume that either the thread reached a bunch of eyeballs who all disagreed upon the JFF move, or several users who upvoted thread and JFF were OK with either but ultimately decided they were more OK with thread.

[up][up][up][up] Oh, thanks. Didn't know that.

Edited by Tabs on Sep 8th 2020 at 3:54:55 AM

Mattman_the_Storyteller Since: Aug, 2018
#67: Sep 8th 2020 at 5:25:44 PM

If we open a forum for this, how would we sort the ideas?

ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#68: Sep 9th 2020 at 12:02:35 AM

In any case, "start a thread in Writer's Block" and "move to JFF" are not mutually exclusive options.

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#69: Sep 23rd 2020 at 9:50:00 AM

Update?

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#70: Sep 23rd 2020 at 10:05:01 AM

The first two options definitely are not neck and neck now.

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#71: Sep 23rd 2020 at 10:39:21 AM

It turns out that "Fanfic ideas you have." is already a thread that exists. A pretty old one, in fact.

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#72: Sep 23rd 2020 at 11:26:47 AM

Honestly, I'm with Crossover-Enthusiast: this sudden influx of downvotes feels a bit suspicious.

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#73: Sep 23rd 2020 at 12:31:18 PM

Closed the crowner. The current state of the crowner isn't really that different from where it was during early September; I suspect that there are a lot of people who disapprove of deletion but don't partake in Wiki Talk topics.

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#74: Jan 31st 2021 at 5:16:06 PM

So... what are we doing with this?

We're not leaving it as-is, but what are we doing?

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#75: Feb 1st 2021 at 3:52:39 AM

Since the forum thread isn't an option, I say we make another crowner.

  • Move to Just for Fun
  • Cut and do nothing else
  • Move to Darth Wiki

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Fanfic Ideas and multiple subpages use an unapproved namespace. They consist of ideas/prompts for fanfiction for various works.

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