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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#51: Jun 17th 2017 at 3:56:56 PM

Really chances are that Kale's move set is pretty much gonna be a reskin of Broly's.

edited 17th Jun '17 3:57:06 PM by slimcoder

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#52: Jun 17th 2017 at 4:49:46 PM

Wonder what broken SNK Boss Arc Sys will come up with for the game.

Maybe Beerus has infinite Super Meter, can move as fast as Score attack Yosuke Hanamura on the screen, and his supers are instant kills unless blocked.

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#53: Jun 17th 2017 at 5:14:59 PM

Merged Zamasu is practically made to be an SNK Boss. Tons of projectiles, a grandiose faux-regal appearance, ridiculous supermoves that take up full screen, and a Turns Red bit that completely changes the way you have to fight him.

Funnily, the first thing I thought of when I saw him do stuff was Arcsys.

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#56: Jun 18th 2017 at 1:32:40 AM

Maybe Beerus has infinite Super Meter, can move as fast as Score attack Yosuke Hanamura on the screen, and his supers are instant kills unless blocked.

Just to add insult to injury, he makes it clear before the fight starts that he's using 30% of his power.

It's possible some characters will get boss modes, with some stronger than others. Like, Unlimited/Boss Freeza is just him in Golden Freeza mode with a few new moves, whereas Boss Beerus is game breakingly overpowered in multiple ways.

Also, I know it likely can't happen because of potential licensing issues, but i'm sad that turning into Golden Freeza doesn't override the BGM with F by Maximum the Hormone.

edited 18th Jun '17 4:10:37 AM by Emperordaein

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#57: Jun 18th 2017 at 6:02:46 AM

[up]If that happens, then Broly needs "10's" by Pantera.

edited 18th Jun '17 6:03:24 AM by Beatman1

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#58: Jun 19th 2017 at 5:25:33 PM

I think Whis should be the Bonus Boss.

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#59: Jun 19th 2017 at 7:26:01 PM

Well, for non-Super 'slightly minor' villains... I wonder what would be the chances for Ginyu and some of his squad members? Recoome maybe? (But then again, his original VA died. Has there been a replacement?)

IIRC, I think one of Ginyu's squadmates has some sort of ZA WARUDO mechanic, but ended up not being effective. Wonder if ASW can tweak that...

Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#60: Jun 19th 2017 at 11:29:50 PM

If any of the Ginyu members make it, it'll likely just be Ginyu himself. I wouldn't put him as likely, either.

We've already got:

  • Goku(SS)
  • Vegeta(SS)
  • Gohan(SS)
  • Cell
  • Buu
  • Freeza

We're likely to get:

  • Piccollo
  • Krillin
  • Beerus
  • Gotenks
  • Hit
  • Goku(SSG/Blue)

Zamasu and Goku Black might be too recent to make it in. Even so, that's twelve characters already. For a first entry fighting game that isn't 100% just for fan-service, that's already a lot.

edited 20th Jun '17 2:02:39 AM by Zeromaeus

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#61: Jun 20th 2017 at 12:25:20 PM

If the game's modes are standard, we're likely to get upwards of 24 characters.

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#63: Jun 22nd 2017 at 2:08:40 AM

For reference, Guilty Gear Xrd, the first version of their latest installment in their flagship series, started with thirteen characters. Blaz Blue started with twelve. Persona 4 Arena had ten starting out. Don't expect much more than that.

edited 22nd Jun '17 2:12:21 AM by Zeromaeus

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#64: Jun 22nd 2017 at 2:22:18 AM

I am wondering if Bandai Namco funding them + the popularity of the franchise means we'll see more characters on launch then is standard for ASW.

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#65: Jun 22nd 2017 at 2:31:00 AM

It is also 3v3 based. So I think minimum is 16-20.

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#66: Jun 22nd 2017 at 3:13:26 AM

And if the demo is any indication, they have less special moves than an average ASW character.

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#67: Jun 22nd 2017 at 5:25:29 AM

Well it is supposed to be simpler.

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#68: Jun 22nd 2017 at 5:32:53 AM

It serves several purposes of simplifying the characters, putting more value into assist moves, and saving time and money for the animation team.

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#69: Jun 22nd 2017 at 5:59:16 AM

That and DBZ characters have never had elaborate, deep move sets. Most have maybe one or two signature ki blasts.

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#70: Jun 22nd 2017 at 6:26:32 AM

Persona 4: Arena had ten starting out. Don't expect much more than that.

To be fair, I think the fact that Persona 4: Arena was still using hand drawn sprites was what contributed to that. Those are still quite time consuming to create, from what I understand. One of the reasons people were bashing Street Fighter III at launch was that it only had 12 playable fighters, 5 of whom were already Head Swaps, while Tekken 3 easily had twice that.

edited 22nd Jun '17 6:26:57 AM by comicwriter

Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#71: Jun 22nd 2017 at 6:28:43 AM

One or two ki moves that were left unnamed until the games came along. Heat Dome Attack is an apt example.

Upon reflection, I believe the following will be close to the roster we get:

  • Goku(SS)
  • Vegeta(SS)
  • Gohan(SS)
  • Cell
  • Buu
  • Freeza
  • Trunks(SS)
  • Piccollo
  • Krillin
  • Tien
  • Yamcha
  • Gotenks(SS)
  • DLCGoku(God)
  • DLCBeerus
  • DLCWhis
  • DLCFrost
  • DLCHit

edited 22nd Jun '17 6:32:44 AM by Zeromaeus

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#72: Jun 22nd 2017 at 6:42:34 AM

[up][up]With the way ASW does its 3D models for Xrd in this game, it's basically a similar amount of work as they'd have for a 2D sprite based game. That said, as mentioned before, the movesets in this game are smaller than your typical ASW game so it might add the benefit of having to work less on one character.

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Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#73: Jun 22nd 2017 at 6:53:33 AM

Admittedly, Tien and Yamcha on my list are placeholders. You could replace them with someone like Super Buu or Nappa or somebody.

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#74: Jun 22nd 2017 at 7:14:19 AM

Persona 4 Arena Ultimax also used different meters with their normal forms vs shadow selves. Normal had a Combo Breaker meter while the shadows had a Super Mode meter.

I would fully expect them to do that here for various forms of the same character.

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#75: Jun 22nd 2017 at 7:31:29 AM

That's true. They might opt to have say, Goku, as a non-Super Saiyan, and he gets a different level three super as a result, but everything else sticks.

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