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alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1: Oct 6th 2016 at 9:47:37 AM

First of all, I got confused with the name of this trope. I thought it had something to do with Cast Calculus or something. Wouldn't Beer Goggles be a better name since it's more familiar for those outside of bar culture and those who aren't into sliding scales?

Update: I have checked Beer Goggles, and the page is empty, and Larkmarn pointed out that there are only a few wicks (24) in this page, even though it's a common trope.

edited 14th Dec '16 11:39:06 PM by alnair20aug93

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#2: Dec 15th 2016 at 7:23:13 AM

This seems straightforward. At only 24 wicks, this is severely underperforming for a very common trope.

Ten with a Two, at best, sounds like a version of Ugly Guy, Hot Wife. Nothing there implies someone's perceptions of someone are being altered, especially by alcohol. "Not mentioning alcohol and only obliquely mentioning attractiveness in the name of a trope about alcohol and attractiveness" seems like it should be a strike against.

At worst, it sounds like a form of Cast Calculus, which is even farther from the true trope.

We've got an underperforming trope, a probable cause for it, and it's an easy fix. I'd say we make a single-prop crowner but I feel like that won't even be necessary. Beer Goggles is a very common term for it and makes it fairly clear what it's about.

Let me put it this way: Right now, Beer Goggles, despite being a Red Link and the fact we don't have a page for it, currently has 1/24 as many wicks as Ten with a Two and 15% as many inbounds. The fact that the trope that doesn't exist is still getting any kind of numbers like that is just wrong.

edited 15th Dec '16 7:29:07 AM by Larkmarn

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#3: Dec 15th 2016 at 8:16:53 AM

Oh geez. Rename it to Beer Goggles. The current name is not only unintuitive, it's actively misleading, plus "Beer Goggles" is the common term for this.

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#4: Dec 15th 2016 at 9:09:09 AM

Oh for goodness sake, I think someone was being waaaay too "witty" when coming up with that name when the common term for this is just as witty as what they came up with, while having the benefit of being light-years more clear. change to Beer Goggles

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#6: Dec 15th 2016 at 10:03:14 AM

Single Proposition Crowner hooked.

If you support renaming but think it should be to something other than Beer Goggles, vote DOWN on this crowner and make your suggestion in the thread, along with your case for why that name should be used. If there is enough support for renaming to something other than Beer Goggles (per standard policy, this means at least a 2:1 ratio in favor), a new crowner will be made to choose the new name.

edited 15th Dec '16 10:03:51 AM by Madrugada

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#7: Dec 15th 2016 at 8:21:41 PM

The only way I can see preserving this with its current title is to split it into specific instances where the Beer Goggles actually led to a hookup. Otherwise, I agree to shifting it to Beer Goggles and noting the "2 with a 10 / 10 with a 2" as a consequence.

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#8: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:08:21 AM

I know it's only been like day, but the crowner has 21 votes with zero dissenting. Geez.

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#9: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:15:43 AM

Yeah, I don't think this one is going ot have any dissension, but we'll still leave the crowner up at least three days. (Admittedly, that's partly because I'm really curious to see how many votes it gets.)

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#10: Dec 17th 2016 at 6:45:39 AM

Is Briguy 52748, the guy who created the page, still here?

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#11: Dec 17th 2016 at 6:50:53 AM

Yes, still fairly active. ~Briguy52748.

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#12: Dec 17th 2016 at 6:51:42 AM

Their last edit was yesterday, so they're still around.

~Briguy52748, your thoughts?

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#13: Dec 17th 2016 at 11:51:45 AM

Well, it appears that you've made your case, and the points are reasonable. Go for it, I'd say.

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#14: Dec 18th 2016 at 9:14:49 AM

It's been three days, and we have a strong, unanimous support for the changes, so calling.


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#15: Dec 18th 2016 at 11:58:11 AM

And done. Closing.

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SingleProposition: RenameTenWithATwotoBeerGoggles
15th Dec '16 9:52:53 AM

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