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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#101: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:03:54 AM

Well now, we've learned a few things today:

  • There's a sink on sight order for the Harekaze, and no port will apparently give them safe harbor now.
  • Subs are apparently exclusively male, and they're crewed by male students.
  • Wilhelmina confirms that there's a weird case of mass-brainwashing going on, as she mentions the electronics all going out, followed by the crew of the Spee acting strangely.

Also damnit, Wilhelmina's name. Who names their kid Wilhelmina Braunschweig Ingenol Friedeburg? Is she some Junker's (I mean Prussian nobility when I use this) kid or something?

EDIT: Y-467 by the way is the Harekaze.

So we have a ton of "lost" ships, but they're not saying whether they're like the Harekaze and on the lam, or they're among the ships that literally went rogue and fired on their comrades unexpectedly.

Anyway I see the following as red:

Y-118: Musashi. Y-102: Hiei Y-512: Teruzuki Y-513: Suzutsuki Y-309: Isuzu Y-460: Isokaze

And the "green" ships are:

The green ships on the map are:

Y-470: Hamakaze Y-212: Maya Y-211: Choukai Y-459: Amatsukaze Y-461: Tokitsukaze Y-471: Maikaze Y-2302: Akashi Y-2201: Mamiya

See, Kantai Collection gives you ship recognition skills!

edited 23rd Apr '16 10:56:18 AM by MyssaRei

NHunter from a certain asteroid with two towers Since: Jan, 2016
#102: Apr 23rd 2016 at 12:22:28 PM

Something weird - really weird - is going on.

Also, I find it rather suspicious that all "red" ships are more or less grouped together on the map. It's almost like source of the problem is hiding somewhere nearby. Hm...

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#103: Apr 23rd 2016 at 12:57:18 PM

So basically what we're saying is that anyone not on the Harekaze is likely already dead. Hrm.

Also looks like Phenotype Stereotype is in full swing with our resident German being blonde, blue eyed, and with a bust that looks like she shoved a pair of melons down her blouse. =/

edited 23rd Apr '16 12:58:07 PM by Deadbeatloser22

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IncognitoNinja Gravity Beams and BIDIBIDIBIDIBIDI Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#104: Apr 23rd 2016 at 7:14:15 PM

Also damnit, Wilhelmina's name. Who names their kid Wilhelmina Braunschweig Ingenol Friedeburg? Is she some Junker's (I mean Prussian nobility when I use this) kid or something?

Well, Weimar-era Germany theme and all that. Also, even though the "Minna" nickname theory just got shot down, I still had a laugh at Akeno calling Wilhelmina "Mii-chan." (Just replace "-chan" with "-kun" and...)

[up] Heck, at first glance, Wilhelmina immediately reminded me of Niku Sena Kashiwazaki.

edited 23rd Apr '16 7:15:33 PM by IncognitoNinja

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TricksterPoi from Lost in the Warp Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#105: Apr 23rd 2016 at 7:37:25 PM

More plot twist? More conspiracy? This gets deeper and deeper...

Hylarn Since: Jan, 2001
#106: Apr 23rd 2016 at 7:50:52 PM

Well, the conspiracy is getting more obvious. But it looks like the school is taking steps to deal with it. Plot is surprisingly decent for this type of show

Mike is a good take on her archetype. Has her own priorities, hang-ups, and whatnot

Nioi is run by dudes! Not that we see them

Three times as fast, but not red. Unforgiveable

Mii-chan already has a pairing. Kind of amazing. Particularly compared to GaruPan

Presumably whatever happened to Admiral Spee happened to Musashi

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#107: Apr 23rd 2016 at 8:32:11 PM

Is the I-201 related to any of the submarines featured in KanColle (e.g.: I-19, I-58, I-168, I-8, or perhaps U-511/Ro-500)?

Also, Nioi (which I assume is also based on the naming convention for some of the submarines mentioned above)...can also mean (or sounds like the Japanese word for) "smell." Kinda fitting since it's run by a bunch of boys who live and work in cramped spaces...

And since the staff were inspired by the movie version of The Hunt For Red October and its a (nighttime!) antisubmarine battle...

"Verify our range to target. One ping only."

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Diamite Rainy Echoes Since: Jul, 2013
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#108: Apr 23rd 2016 at 11:03:08 PM

Ah~. Nothing like a night battle can get hearts pumping, eh?

Harekaze:"We don't want to fight you!"

I-201:"Battle-stations!" *Sigh* Might as well get used to this type of response. Especially now that pursuers now have permission to sink 'em if they must...

MVP of this night battle: Wilhelmina, for her greatly needed submarine combat knowledge, and Ms. Marikouji, for keeping up with the sonar play-by-play.smile


Hm? Well, Wilma sure said something interesting. So...is there some sort of brainwashing in effect or something? Moeka might be in the same situation...Maybe the other ships in red suffered the same fate as well?

So, the I-201, huh? The puns are as vast as the ocean.[lol]

Principal Munetani hasn't given up on her girls! That's good to know.smile

Heh, of course the deputy captains become roomies. And Mashiro's plushie collection is known by all. Well, it will be eventually. May the Goddess of Misfortune continue to shine upon ye!tongue

edited 24th Apr '16 10:55:05 AM by Diamite

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#109: Apr 24th 2016 at 2:45:08 AM

Especially since Kouko has photos.

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TricksterPoi from Lost in the Warp Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#110: Apr 24th 2016 at 3:05:24 AM

Well I suspect of a Subliminal Messaging that occurred in the ships which lead them to go WTF and started attacking.

After hearing that German girl said "Germany is home of Submarines" I feel that WW 1 or WW 2 still had happen and developed their powerful submarines.

Ok, it's confirmed that most of the ship is automated as said in the Harekaze's guns. But on everything else, like using those ASW-weapon, manual rotating of Torpedo Mounts and aiming of guns are still need a crew to do it.

Whatever happens in the 4th episode will be even intensified...

Hylarn Since: Jan, 2001
#111: Apr 24th 2016 at 3:09:34 AM

I'm not sure about the brainwashing idea. Feels a bit too sci-fi for the setting we have

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#112: Apr 24th 2016 at 3:23:33 AM

And the dialogue doesn't support it. Just that the Spee's crew cutting the power was the first shot in their little mutiny.

Conspiracy, probably. Brainwashing? I don't think so.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
TricksterPoi from Lost in the Warp Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#113: Apr 24th 2016 at 3:33:27 AM

[up]Whatever that triggers their mutiny is again because of it. Not exactly brainwashed but something was flogged into their heads which causes them to go into it.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#114: Apr 24th 2016 at 3:33:55 AM

Also someone please tell me I wasn't the only one screaming IT'S A TRAP! at the screen when they read out the "return to the school, we'll protect you" message?

Whatever that triggers their mutiny is again because of it. Not exactly brainwashed but something was flogged into their heads which causes them to go into it.

Again, nothing said on-screen suggests that at all.

How does "They cut the power, then stopped following orders" mean brainwashing?

Then again I'm still trying to get my head around how we got from "there's no way to make this ship fly" to "there's no heavier than air flight in this universe".

edited 24th Apr '16 3:40:01 AM by Deadbeatloser22

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#115: Apr 24th 2016 at 4:30:22 AM

[up]

I'm more surprised at the lack of SPECULAH. By this point both Sora No Woto and Madoka Magica had scads and scads of WM Gs, but here? Zilch. It's like the people you'd expect would start spewing those had already left the military anime fandom. Even /a/ is surprised at how there are only TWO major theories right now: CONSPIRACY TO TOPPLE THE MUNETANI FAMILY and DEEP SEE ALIENS TURNING EVERYONE TO MINDLESS ZOMBIES.

NHunter from a certain asteroid with two towers Since: Jan, 2016
#116: Apr 24th 2016 at 4:37:12 AM

[up] The said alien (not aliens, alien) is a self-duplicating big fat orange cat.

Seriously, though, you're right. There isn't enough WMG for what is going on. Especially given how this show seems to be rather popular.

TricksterPoi from Lost in the Warp Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#117: Apr 24th 2016 at 4:45:40 AM

>Again, nothing said on-screen suggests that at all. How does "They cut the power, then stopped following orders" mean brainwashing?

Didn't you ready my previous post? SUBLIMINAL MESSAGING which occurred before the "Harekaze Incident" of course they'll not mention that, unless something else happened.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#118: Apr 24th 2016 at 4:46:51 AM

I'm still not seeing what you're basing this theory on.

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Hylarn Since: Jan, 2001
#119: Apr 24th 2016 at 4:49:08 AM

So, speculation. I think the ultimate goal of the conspiracy is to get rid of the Blue Mermaids and use the ships for war. The villains are Japanese nationalists

edited 24th Apr '16 4:51:28 AM by Hylarn

NHunter from a certain asteroid with two towers Since: Jan, 2016
#120: Apr 24th 2016 at 4:54:33 AM

[up] You know, there is a faster way to achieve that. While the ships themselves are armed, it doesn't look like the girls are capable of mounting an effective defense once they are boarded. And zeppelins DO exist in the universe... So, paradrop a few commandos per battleship, and you have a fleet to take over an island nation.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#121: Apr 24th 2016 at 4:56:37 AM

I support the conspiracy theory myself (for double the fun, lets have Furushou join said conspiracy due to an incredibly petty reason — like Munetani-mom flunking her during one practical exam when she was a student), but there's enough to point to DEEP SEA ALIEN MIND CONTROL too. The sudden-ness of the turning of the crews (especially on the Graf Spee, whose crew would have to had spent at least a month at sea together before even GETTING to Japan) can't be easily explained by indoctrination or sleeper agents.

TricksterPoi from Lost in the Warp Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#122: Apr 24th 2016 at 5:00:42 AM

I pretty agree to what that guy said, they're attempting to remove the Blue Mermaids and reuse the ships for war.

Damn JP Ultra-Nationalist XDD

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#123: Apr 24th 2016 at 5:00:48 AM

...We could always be writing the WMG page rather than moaning about the lack of one, you know. >.>

...Also wouldn't the Spee existing and flying Weimar colours contradict the idea we've got going that WW 1 never happened in this universe?

edited 24th Apr '16 5:01:46 AM by Deadbeatloser22

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TricksterPoi from Lost in the Warp Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#124: Apr 24th 2016 at 5:08:45 AM

[up] As Submarines existed in this areas and Mii-chan mention that her country is home of it, had extremely show that WW 1 or WW 2 still happen but in a different way.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#125: Apr 24th 2016 at 5:11:19 AM

[up][up]

Do we know the specifics of HOW World War Two happened in Girls Und Panzer after all this time? Nope!

That's kind of exactly what's happening here. They're cherry-picking stuff that would point to an alternate timeline, but they're not going to give much details about the actual deviations.


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