Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Spoiler Thread

So let me get this straight: This is a superhero film... no, scratch that, a Superman film... and a Batman film... and a Wonder Woman film... where a plot point is directly related to a jar of piss.

I think we just hit peak superhero with this one. I mean, I thought Deadpool would demolish the genre via sheer irreverence, but honestly, this baby easily tops it in terms of just how ridiculous a plot can be delivered with a straight face. Can anyone even imagine Luthorberg taking the time to go all Howard Hughes on the jar? It's official - Batman may have prep time, but Luthor now has potty time. He's added a whole new meaning to looking out for number one. And you can bet he didn't wash his hands.

On that account, we should all now be shuddering to see what he's gonna hatch in the sequel.

edited 24th Mar '16 12:19:51 PM by indiana404

That was actually a pretty tense scene.

The question is, was it Batman's piss?

The scene itself is tense but the whole piss thing is reaaaaally silly.

How the Joker will beat Batman in Suicide Squad.

This is going to be a meme isn't it

The piss thing seems like the type of taunt Luthor would go for.

Between this and Trailer Park Boys, I think I've had my share of piss jar/jug/vial jokes for one lifetime.

It wasn't really a joke per se . More of a taunt.

Well, we don't actually see him directly, intentionally kill anyone on-screen iirc. (It looks like he shoots some people in the dream sequence, but that doesn't count.) He does blow up a lot of cars (and a flamethrower) however.

I've said elsewhere it's a 'No where but a comic book could that guy have survived ' ' situation.

If this was a comic book the Russian would show up 2 years from know horribly scarred and seeking revenge.

I keep forgetting the remarks I've already made. If they release the junior novelization for the movie(i.e. the script for the movie in book form), I'll read it and have my questions answered. I read the novelization for Man Of Steel and liked it alright. I'd rather read a book than watch a movie.

http://screencrush.com/zack-snyder-bad-batman-vs-superman-reviews/

Looking at the video itself... I don't see the implied insults, they're just recomending for people to check them out to figure out their opinion for themselves.

I also didn't see Afleck's "White hot angry eyes" he is just giving a blank stare.

You can be biased and still have a point, and while I don't know yet if the author of that article has a real point, he's still clearly biased himself. You can see it from the tone. I kept expecting for the poison to start dripping from my computer screen at any moment.

To me, it seemed like Ben was remembering the the Daredevil film.

I think the bias thing might have a point in that Zack Snyder seems to be a bit of an Acceptable Target and a lot of people were more or less determined to dislike this movie no matter what. For the record, I didn't think Sucker Punch was that bad and I even sort of enjoyed Man of Steel. But it doesn't really mean there weren't problems with this movie, because even with what I just said, I still found this movie really undercooked and underwhelming. I can see that some people enjoyed it even though it was flawed, and maybe I'll soften my stance on it a little with time, but for now this is just not a movie that convinces.

I do feel bad for everyone involved honestly because I legitimately believe they cared about this movie and wanted it to be good, but it just didn't turn out that way. I even feel bad for Snyder, who's put his foot in his mouth a few times defending Mo S. I DO get it; these people spent years on this movie and there was a lot riding on it, and it's just completely failed to impress. That must be such an awful feeling, but even though I feel for him, I don't think Snyder should be in charge anymore. I wouldn't mind him sticking around to help with the action sequences (since that's the one thing he's pretty competent at), but the actual directorial duties shouldn't be on him anymore.

edited 24th Mar '16 2:26:32 PM by wehrmacht

I am sure that it isn't easy to be in the public eye and have the fans calling for an replacement, but, well, it's not like this kind of "bias" comes from nowhere. Let's be honest here, you can change characters a lot, if you tell a good story, the audience will accept it.

I also don't feel like it's entirely Snyder's fault since it's not like he's the writer for the movie, but I still cannot help but feel that Man of Steel would have had a much cleaner execution of its concept if Nolan had actually directed it instead of just writing for it.

edited 24th Mar '16 2:38:08 PM by wehrmacht

A good director should be able to judge a good and a bad story, though, and put the right people on it.

Directors, particularly hollywood directors, are also pretty much free to chuck out the script out of the window if they so desire. A lot of films have directors who changed scenes from the script or sometimes even stopped to demand rewrites (sometimes even during filming). Which is not to say the screenwriter is not to blame, but it goes to show that Snyder's forte isn't script.

Now I wonder if the movie would have been better or worse without Affleck's alleged rewrites. Did they sank it, or savaged it from being something even worse?

To be honest I would be more inclined to believe they salvaged it but did not have anywhere near the license necessary to significantly improve the movie because there was only so much deviation allowed. Granted I have not seen the films Affleck has written and directed, but if they are as good as I hear then I can only imagine this movie would have been worse without him.

edited 24th Mar '16 3:21:18 PM by wehrmacht

This movie was co-written by Chris Terrio, who won the Oscar for Best Screenplay for Argo. How the heck does one go from that to this?