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MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#1: Mar 20th 2016 at 9:23:48 PM

On the Stock Dinosaurs page, they include Microraptor and Archelon on the list while claiming that mammoths/mastodons and Smilodon are the only Cenozoic beasts to be seen in popular culture.

Thing is, I've seen terror birds and ground sloths in fiction just as often as Microraptor and Archelon. And Megalodon is popular enough to get its own trope!

Anyone else think the page and its corresponding useful notes pages should be updated to include these creatures, along with a few others like Sarcosuchus?

(A couple people already pointed this out on the discussion page, but no one responded, so I think this would get more attention if it were a forum thread.)

edited 20th Mar '16 9:25:01 PM by MrMediaGuy2

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#2: Apr 5th 2016 at 3:11:29 AM

I'm no paleontologist (or geologist, or scientist of any stripe), but don't Microraptor and Archelon belong to the Mesozoic Era, rather than the Cenozoic?

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MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#3: Apr 5th 2016 at 2:19:36 PM

[up] I know that. I was giving an example of how those two are considered stock, but terror birds and ground sloths aren't. I never said they were from the Cenozoic.

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#4: Apr 5th 2016 at 2:40:38 PM

Is there any possibility that the species you listed have only recently become popular? They could certainly all go on the stock dinosaurs page even if I never saw any of them in any older movies.

MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#5: Apr 5th 2016 at 3:07:49 PM

[up] Well, Unknown Island from 1948 had a ground sloth...albeit as a vicious carnivore that looked nothing like an actual ground sloth.

MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#6: Apr 12th 2016 at 8:11:54 PM

The reason I asked to do this is because adding these creatures to the list will be the easy part...but I'll also have to edit the examples below them, along with adding them to their corresponding useful notes pages, and then editing all 384 of the related pages.

I can't do that all on my own. So, can I just add them to the list, then wait for the Wiki Magic to do the rest?

MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#7: Apr 18th 2016 at 7:01:01 PM

I added ground sloths to the list, but I wasn't sure where to add terror birds and Megalodon, since there's no bird or fish section.

Can someone update the useful notes, please?

MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#8: Apr 26th 2016 at 9:02:51 PM

Alright, I see someone added the terror birds, woolly rhinos, and cave bears to the list as well as ground sloths. Awesome!

Now we just need to update the corresponding Useful Notes pages. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure whether each of the new additions deserve one or two stars. Plus, I'm not entirely sure what to add to the expanded information, or what to do with what's left over on the other pages.

I'm considering adding Gigantopithecus to the list as well, since it's showed up in both Ice Age: Continental Drift and The Jungle Book (2016), and it's commonly associated with Bigfoot and the yeti. Anyone else agree?

EDIT: What about dire wolves? They've been popularized by Game of Thrones, so I'm sure they at least deserve to be one star stock.

edited 26th Apr '16 9:06:45 PM by MrMediaGuy2

MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#9: Apr 27th 2016 at 12:15:26 AM

Sorry for the quadruple post, but I have FINALLY put the new additions on the useful notes pages!

However, a lot of sections are incomplete (especially the cave bear one) because I couldn't think of anything to add that the other page didn't already say.

And the UsefulNotes.Prehistoric Life Mammals now needs help, since I couldn't figure out what to do with the sloth section, and when I removed the cave bear from the bear section, it left just the part about the short-faced bear, which isn't very much. Could anyone expand on that if they can? (Unless I move the short-faced bear to stock as well).

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#10: Apr 27th 2016 at 3:20:22 AM

As far as I am concerned, dire wolves were popularized by Dungeons & Dragons. But I would have considered them stock fantasy monsters, not stock extinct creatures.

edited 27th Apr '16 3:22:14 AM by war877

MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#11: Apr 27th 2016 at 7:34:31 AM

[up] Still, their name is clearly a reference to the real animal.

tigris115 Since: May, 2013
#12: Jan 15th 2017 at 11:49:53 AM

I think that Gorgosaurus should take the place of Albertosaurus. Gorgosaurus has a much higher cultural presence than Albertosaurus and thus should be a stock dinosaur.

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