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IsaacsLaughing Since: Feb, 2015
#1: Dec 29th 2015 at 8:45:25 AM

Can a pot hole be a sinkhole if it is technically relevant to the subject but adds nothing to the specific example in which it is being used?

For example:

Bishie Sparkle: Ann saves Bob, Charles and George. George sparkles and declares Ann will be his wife someday.

George's sexuality has little to do with him sparkling at being rescued, so this is a sinkhole, correct?

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IsaacsLaughing Since: Feb, 2015
eyebones Since: Apr, 2004
#4: Dec 29th 2015 at 10:04:26 AM

Even if it was pertinent it reads better this way:

"Ambiguously Bi George sparkles and declares Ann will be his wife someday."

Giving the reader the info without making them click or hover is just better.

edited 29th Dec '15 10:04:51 AM by eyebones

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#5: Dec 29th 2015 at 3:10:35 PM

From Administrivia.Sinkhole:

"In a wiki, it's better to pot hole words which represent the article they are linked to."

Among other reasons not to use potholes that way, many readers can't see where a link goes without following it. Don't use potholes to add information that isn't in the plain text, or to change its meaning somehow.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#6: Dec 29th 2015 at 5:53:14 PM

I tend to add potholes when they're relevant to the example, but not necessary for understanding the example. If they're not relevant, I don't add them. If they're necessary for understanding the example, I write them out in text.

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jameygamer Since: May, 2014
#7: Feb 19th 2017 at 1:46:51 AM

I'm coming here for sinkhole help. I'm not sure if the examples I put on the The Apprentice page are sinkholes or potholes.

jameygamer Since: May, 2014
#8: Feb 19th 2017 at 1:57:05 AM

Decided to get rid of most of those potholes. I kept a few such as the Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies one, though.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#9: Feb 19th 2017 at 2:08:18 AM

If you're asking for help about any examples or writeups, whether here or elsewhere on the forums, please post them in the thread, rather than just link to the page.

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#10: Feb 19th 2017 at 8:32:32 AM

Jamey: It was the right choice to go back and take most of them out; most of them were sinkholes. However, I think that what you have as Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies might be a better fit under Total Party Kill. Both are a little shoehorned, since they're primarily about RPGs but I think that the reality game concept is close enough to an RPG that Trump would count as a DM; he plays essentially the same role.

The difference is subtle, but in Rocks, the party is killed off becauase the DM doesn't like what they've been doing. (Which he didn't.) But what they did may have made perfect sense within the game. Essentially, it's personal revenge by the DM. In TPK, however, however, the party members bring on their doom themselves by doing something incredibly dumb. From the TPK page:

"Not the same as Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies: in that trope, the Game Master deliberately kills everyone. Here, players die due to getting in over their heads. If the Game Master values the current plot or characters, he may save the group, but otherwise, it's time to roll up another party. "
He didn't have to fire them all; he could have saved some of them.

It also makes more sense to pmove the pothole to "...as Trump fires the whole of Excel, with the exception of Brian, who was immune following last week's win, as well as Rebecca and Marshawn, ''; the sentence about the actual firing, rather than the line about them having to share a cab.

edited 19th Feb '17 8:48:20 AM by Madrugada

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