It's a bug, and not one affecting me
Old issue, moved thread to Tech Wishlist in hope of a fix.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Is this complaint aware of Administrivia.Sinkhole, policy forbidding to spoil out the name of the tropes in example lists? If Downer Ending is followed by proper context example, there could be subversions or tons of actual details. Zero Context Example doesn't spoil much really. If it does, then the trope is bad, not the lack of spoiling. Seems safe.
edited 20th Apr '15 2:57:37 AM by NemuruMaeNi
I've never encountered this bug myself, but if it's only affecting trope names in the list, it's actually just serving to enforce wiki policy. As such, there doesn't seem to be much reason to fix it unless the policy in question changes.
Uh, ~Septimus Heap, are you sure you're not misinterpreting the OP? Because I'm pretty sure it's complaining about part of our spoiler policy, not reporting a bug.
Zzzzzzzzzz
The spoiler policy is, and has been for nearly a year now, "Do not spoil out trope names in the tropes list on works pages. Do not spoil out work names in the examples list on trope pages."
The reasoning behind this policy is that spoiling out either of those means that the reader has to read the spoiler to know if they want to read it.
edited 20th Apr '15 9:58:45 PM by Madrugada
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Uh yeah, I took the OP as meaning "links inside of spoilers". My bad.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
COME, AND SEE
Hmmm... Oh! I know! Why not just put a warning saying that there are major spoilers?
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I mean at the top of the works name.
edited 21st Apr '15 12:02:25 AM by TheGreatDuck
My game. I reckon it's gonna be a big one
Because the description may say it's subverted or something, no trope name by itself is a spoiler I don't think.
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Lost in Space
You always read wiki articles at your own risk. We can't shield you from any possibility of seeing spoilers.
edited 21st Apr '15 5:06:52 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
COME, AND SEE
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that is true, of course, but there are certain works that are just extreme with the spoilers, and I think that's what this topic is referring to. In that case, I'd be inclined to put a warning at the top. shrugs
Lost in Space
Well, sure, if a work is particularly spoilerrific, a warning at the top may be merited. That's courtesy.
edited 23rd Apr '15 7:01:50 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Wouldn't the best solution be to put especially spoilerrific tropes under a separate section on a work page, like what I did here? https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/SheepDogNWolf
Usually not, because it requires a major maintenance effort to keep the examples from spilling around.
Also, this is a Tech Wishlist topic, not a Wiki Talk one. It's not really the place for policy discussion.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I think this thread has outlived its usefulness. There are other places to discuss the policy.
Lost in Space
Agreed. Let's not have lots of threads about this. The policy is the policy, and there is no tech issue here.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
As it says on the tin. Some tropes have the spoiler simply built into the name; it's quite annoying to be reading through a page with spoilers off yet still be able to see things like 'downer ending' unspoiled. It's not like hiding the rest of the text after it helps any; you might as well make the rest of it plain and open as well for all the good it does with these kinds of tropes, as it's still telling me that the ending's a downer, or that a character makes a heroic sacrifice, etc etc. I'm sure there's a reason for it, but by allowing tropes that are inherently spoiling to also be shown publicly it rather defeats the purpose of trying to hide spoilers in the first place.
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