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ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#1: Mar 30th 2015 at 4:29:56 PM

Current image just feels like two characters talking about the trope, and even then it's a bit confusing unless you really read into it.

You want differing gods going at it, how about the last panel of this?

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#2: Mar 31st 2015 at 4:02:55 AM

Flip a coin for me...the OOTS pic looks like it needs to be redone for artifacting, though.

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#3: Mar 31st 2015 at 4:08:06 AM

I like the suggestion somewhat more, seeing as this trope family is about the various portrayals of gods. No to the current, it looks less god-like than the suggestion.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#4: Mar 31st 2015 at 11:03:50 AM

I don't think that's clearly Jesus in the suggestion.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#5: Mar 31st 2015 at 12:10:12 PM

Suggestion is leagues better. Maybe a caption saying "Kung-Fu Jesus vs. Good Old Fisticuffs Ganesha" to make it clear in case someone doesn't realize that's Jesus.

edited 31st Mar '15 12:10:21 PM by Larkmarn

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#6: Mar 31st 2015 at 12:11:06 PM

Good call.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#7: Mar 31st 2015 at 2:15:02 PM

That's an improvement to me.

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#8: Mar 31st 2015 at 3:09:22 PM

I'm rather iffy about using real life religions, but sure.

peasant Since: Mar, 2011
#9: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:50:11 AM

Perhaps this piece of fan art from Smite?[1]

Maybe with a caption along the lines of "Oh my gods".

Or, maybe the cover art for Age of Mythology.[2]

edited 1st Apr '15 2:51:47 AM by peasant

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#10: Apr 1st 2015 at 3:00:31 AM

The cover art is used on its own page. The other I don't quite feel. It's a little generic, perhaps?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#11: Apr 1st 2015 at 5:41:54 AM

The Smite one I don't care for as it doesn't really say "god" to me. I suppose knowing context I can see that there's Anubis there, but otherwise I would've thought it a generic fantasy cast.

I don't think there's an issue with real-life religion being used so long as one isn't shown winning. But that's just me.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#12: Apr 1st 2015 at 7:14:08 PM

Kung-Fu Jesus vs. Good Old Fisticuffs Ganesha is the best option so far. Two deities from different religions duking it out.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#13: Apr 2nd 2015 at 5:20:43 AM

[1] Totally not Pokemon for gods.

edited 2nd Apr '15 5:32:24 AM by Memers

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#14: Apr 2nd 2015 at 10:18:04 AM

[up] Love me some SMT, but that's just a bad image.

My only issue with the Jesus vs. Ganesha image is that it, in conjunction with the name, could lead people to believe the trope is about Divine Conflict between pantheons when really it's much broader (it's basically "there are gods in this work").

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#15: Apr 2nd 2015 at 1:09:55 PM

What a terrible, snowcloney name.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
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#16: Apr 2nd 2015 at 1:30:30 PM

Agreed.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#17: Apr 2nd 2015 at 3:05:44 PM

Bad name indeed. I wouldn't mind if it changed. I want to go back in time and kill that trend before it started.

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ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#18: Apr 13th 2015 at 5:02:40 PM

Any other thoughts on this one?

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#19: Apr 13th 2015 at 8:04:45 PM

So, what is this trope about?

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#20: Apr 13th 2015 at 8:26:16 PM

Apparently, it is "there are deities in this work, and that could mean virtually anything".

Clearly not a trope, IMO. I guess a Common Attributes Of Gods In Fiction article is worthwhile, but "Our Gods Are Greater" is a terrible name for it. Also, the current page image is misleading.

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edited 13th Apr '15 9:01:34 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#21: Apr 13th 2015 at 8:37:25 PM

I thought it was all types of Deities exist or are used for something in a work and they have a tendency to fight each other or have rivalries IE Gods are Pokemon.

These Deities are from various folklore or legends around the world and not made up, basically a Fantasy Kitchen Sink for gods.

edited 13th Apr '15 8:43:13 PM by Memers

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#22: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:06:36 PM

[up]Isn't deities fighting each other covered by Divine Conflict?

ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#23: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:26:37 PM

I think that's more multiple gods within one theology, rather than multiple theologies clashing.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#24: Apr 14th 2015 at 12:01:02 AM

I am sure there are examples where gods don't fight each other, I just said they had a tendency to fight.

Things I was thinking of were like Shin Megami Tensei where gods, demons, angels of all cultures from Hindu, Shinto, Christian, Celtic, Native American, etc (list of them broken down by mythology) all appear and fight in various ways.

Or Highschool Dx D where angels and demons are having an antiterrorism conference and they invite the Norse pantheon to attend.

But since that does not seem to be what this is it is a moot point.

edited 14th Apr '15 1:48:32 AM by Memers

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#25: Apr 14th 2015 at 6:15:22 AM

I retract my support for the suggestion on the grounds it's misleading on an already confusingly named trope.

From the name alone I thought it was "Gods of one pantheon fight another" and the picture wouldn't help.

While we're at it, I'd like to pull the current on similar grounds. It doesn't add much (given OOTS is both ubiquitous and [intentionally] not super pleasing to the eye), and while it is technically the trope, it definitely obfuscates the actual trope by having Divine Conflict and Celestial Bureaucracy.

edited 14th Apr '15 6:16:34 AM by Larkmarn

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