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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#251: Apr 21st 2015 at 12:42:42 PM

Do Return of Jafar and Simba's Pride count as cheapquels? Because I liked them.

The "cheapquel" era basically starts and ends with the first and second Little Mermaid sequels, respectively. At least, that's how I group it based on the general method and direction of the sequels made during that time - I guess it technically starts with Goofy Movie 2, but it's much snazzier for it considered between two sequels of the same movie.

Lion King 2 and Return of Jafar were both far before the Disney sequels started to become more "churn them out" fare, and it shows in the way they're written. Also, Return of the Jafar is more of a tv pilot (same with Milo's Return).

edited 21st Apr '15 12:44:10 PM by KnownUnknown

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#252: Apr 21st 2015 at 1:27:05 PM

The Aladdin and Lion King sequels are the only good ones in my opinion. Beauty and the Beast is okay. The rest are best forgotten.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#253: Apr 21st 2015 at 1:33:53 PM

The Beauty and the Beast one was a midquel that was during the Stockholm Syndrome Falling in Love montage.

edited 21st Apr '15 1:34:14 PM by GethKnight

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#254: Apr 21st 2015 at 1:37:44 PM

[up] Yeah. In the original, she at least have ovaries to stand up to the Beast while healing him.

Since when were we talking about cheapquels?

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#255: Apr 21st 2015 at 1:55:25 PM

Cheapquels kinda came about when talking about Mulan never getting an animated series like Hercules or Aladdin.

Also, I am horribly ashamed of myself that I actually tried to link the London Blitz to WWI. My only defense is that I have become so utterly burned out by WWII over-saturation in media that I subconsciously rewrote it in my mind (at least in regards to Peter Pan 2).

Maven Since: Apr, 2011
#256: May 5th 2015 at 8:43:33 PM

Watchtower, you weren't completely wrong. London *was* bombed from the air in World War I. With Zeppelins.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#257: May 5th 2015 at 8:47:24 PM

Wow, so Fullmetal Alchemist was right about that?!

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#258: Apr 29th 2016 at 4:16:29 PM

Is this still happening? I haven't heard anything in months.

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#259: Apr 29th 2016 at 4:43:05 PM

The last I've heard is that Jenna Ushkowitz of Glee is rumored to be in talks for the lead role. From an anonymous source, so who knows.

edited 29th Apr '16 4:43:24 PM by Tuckerscreator

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#260: Apr 29th 2016 at 6:56:07 PM

South Korean decent. Aaaargh.

but HOW?
TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#261: Apr 29th 2016 at 7:44:49 PM

Why the hell do Disney not just cut the bullshit and cast Zhang Ziyi? Ok, she's 37, but she doesn't look a day over 18, she is a veteran of martial arts artsy movies and she's Chinese, for fuck's sake.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#262: Apr 29th 2016 at 7:51:27 PM

This isn't listed in Disney's recent lineup of upcoming live action movies, so for all we know it's in Development Hell.

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#263: May 4th 2016 at 12:17:31 PM

I can actually see this working. The cast is almost entirely human - with Mushu being the only real non-human prescence throughout the story (the cricket was superfluous and probably going to get canned from this) - and the original wasn't overtly cartoony bar a gag or two like Mushu's messenger disguise.

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#264: May 4th 2016 at 12:26:06 PM

I think they might at least have the cricket for the beginning.

edited 4th May '16 4:32:52 PM by yellowturtle

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diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#265: May 4th 2016 at 4:31:37 PM

Well while I agree an actual Chinese lady would be far better, a Korean would certainly be more ideal than whitewashing the character.

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#266: May 4th 2016 at 6:26:28 PM

Can we please shut up about the whitewashing that hasn't even happened yet? The subject has already dominated like 10 pages of this thread.

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#267: May 4th 2016 at 8:59:49 PM

[up][up]Depending on the market, casting a Korean instead of a Chinese woman would be just as insulting.

[up]Sadly, it'll never really go away. It's an issue that will always get brought up.

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#268: May 4th 2016 at 9:09:13 PM

[up] I agree but a t this point I think we can wait until it actually happens before bringing it up.

diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#269: May 4th 2016 at 9:37:37 PM

[up]x3 Sorry, I won't make a big deal about it, wasn't going to. It just sorta fit in with my point. I'll leave it at that.

[up][up] I don't pretend to know completely how the Chinese feel about some Koreans, but it probably isn't too great. And I understand wanting an actor who is Chinese actually representing a Chinese character.

Although I will never complain about a hot British/Aussie, etc. actor playing an American. [lol]

harkko Since: Apr, 2010
#270: May 5th 2016 at 5:57:18 AM

The Promise and a Chinese version of Dangerous Liaisons had a Korean actor Jang Dong-gun playing Chinese main roles. It also isn't completely rare for Japanese (porn) actors to have roles in Hong Kong Category III films. Despite the political situation, Taiwanese actors such as Shu Chi, Lin Chi-ling and Takeshi Kaneshiro seem to also get work in mainland Chinese movies.

edited 5th May '16 5:59:27 AM by harkko

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#271: May 5th 2016 at 7:00:48 AM

We're not in any danger of whitewashing here... they bothered to get an Asian actress to voice Mulan in the original. I'm not worried about that.

Now, there is the question as to whether there's a "difference" between a Chinese, Korean, Japanese actress and how offensive that might be. That's certainly up in the air, but I don't think there's any danger of Scarjo being Mulan.

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Sisi Since: Oct, 2012
#272: May 5th 2016 at 7:51:57 AM

I know that a lot of Japanese people weren't terribly happy when the vast majority of the main cast of Memoirs of a Geisha were Chinese actors.

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#273: May 5th 2016 at 7:55:17 AM

Can we please shut up about the whitewashing that hasn't even happened yet? The subject has already dominated like 10 pages of this thread.

So long as this song remains accurate, it will always be a concern whenever an adaptation of an Asian character is proposed.

We're not in any danger of whitewashing here... they bothered to get an Asian actress to voice Mulan in the original. I'm not worried about that.

Voice acting and physical acting are very different animals. Also, that was twenty years ago.

edited 5th May '16 7:57:01 AM by TobiasDrake

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Sisi Since: Oct, 2012
#274: May 5th 2016 at 8:00:53 AM

It's not remotely possible to cast a white actress for an Asian role in ancient freaking China. Does not compute.

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#275: May 5th 2016 at 8:07:09 AM

They did it this very year for Egypt. Gods of Egypt had a whole bunch of white people playing ancient Egyptians.

edited 5th May '16 8:07:42 AM by TobiasDrake

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