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MorwenEdhelwen Aussie Tolkien freak from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2012
Aussie Tolkien freak
#1: Feb 6th 2015 at 8:48:52 PM

So this is the thread for all TVT Tolkien nerds to talk about the works of JRRT or anything related.

Who's seen all three Hobbit movies?

edited 6th Feb '15 9:20:50 PM by MorwenEdhelwen

The road goes ever on. -Tolkien
TempestKnight Tempest Knight from Toronto Since: Dec, 2014
#2: Feb 9th 2015 at 11:22:50 AM

I have. Gotta say though — The Battle of Five Armies is my least favourite of all six movies. I'd give it a 4.5/10.

Laicamir Since: Oct, 2013
#3: Feb 18th 2015 at 4:59:06 AM

I have yet to see the third one. After the second I felt they really should be labeled 'inspired by' rather than 'adapted from' though. I certainly do intend to see the third one though but overall while I feel that the movies have really deviated not just from the books but from the entire cannon.

edited 18th Feb '15 5:00:57 AM by Laicamir

MorwenEdhelwen Aussie Tolkien freak from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2012
Aussie Tolkien freak
#4: Feb 24th 2015 at 2:07:09 AM

[up] Exactly, but they aren't that bad (I loved them).

The road goes ever on. -Tolkien
Laicamir Since: Oct, 2013
#5: Feb 24th 2015 at 2:35:51 AM

I certainly agree that they're not bad!

I'm curious to know what you guys think about elves having curved swords though. I kinda like the aesthetic but because Egalmoth's sword was explicitly stated to be curved so I feel that Tolkien pictured them with straight swords.

edited 25th Mar '15 5:57:57 AM by Laicamir

Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#6: Feb 27th 2015 at 2:05:32 PM

To everyone who may not know: don't forget the respective associated threads with his works on the Literature and Live-Action Film subforums.

Is this coven solely dedicated to the works, or can it be expanded to talk about the conlangs he made (both within and outside his works), his analysis of fairy tales, his life, and so on and so forth?

edited 27th Feb '15 2:05:49 PM by Quag15

MorwenEdhelwen Aussie Tolkien freak from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2012
Aussie Tolkien freak
#7: Feb 27th 2015 at 5:37:22 PM

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edited 25th Mar '15 5:26:50 AM by MorwenEdhelwen

The road goes ever on. -Tolkien
MorwenEdhelwen Aussie Tolkien freak from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2012
Aussie Tolkien freak
#8: Mar 25th 2015 at 5:27:25 AM

[up][up]It's basically about anything Tolkien related.

The road goes ever on. -Tolkien
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#9: May 30th 2015 at 7:02:29 PM

Consider me a witch then.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#11: May 30th 2015 at 7:16:30 PM

Coven. witch. Just... going with the theme here...

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Laithelryn Since: Mar, 2015
#12: May 30th 2015 at 7:19:55 PM

Ah, I see! I apologize for my lack of understanding!

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#13: Jul 17th 2015 at 10:36:33 AM

Is anyone up for a long rambling discussion on the merits of the films?

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Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#14: Jul 17th 2015 at 12:05:29 PM

[up]Sure. What points do you want to raise?

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#15: Jul 17th 2015 at 12:20:51 PM

All of them.

I actually read the books as the first film came out, and I thought they were an excellent adaptation. I think they captured the sheer beauty of Middle-Earth very well. Big fan of the costuming and set departments.

I did think the Elves looked too human though. The huge CGI Elven army in the Hobbit films actually sat better with me than the human-actor one that showed up in Helm's Deep. Although that might have more to do with the Big-Lipped Alligator Moment nature of the latter.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#16: Jul 18th 2015 at 9:52:39 AM

[up]Ok, I see. The adaptations were generally good, though, personally, I still feel partly cheated due to the exclusion of the 'Scourging of the Shire' (and the whole actual death of Saruman) chapter, for various reasons.

As for the CGI vs. human actors, it depends. I liked the battle of Helm's Deep precisely because of this human presence factor, even if the Elves felt a bit too human (the CGI scenes in ROTK were allright). The CGI scenes in the Hobbit movies (especially in the third one), though, felt too... Total War-ish to me (especially in the way the Battle of the Five Armies was enacted).

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#17: Jul 18th 2015 at 10:57:59 AM

The way the elves moved was great. I actually liked that effect for the elves, because I personally think that's the way they SHOULD move. The dwarves and orcs though, I agree.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
concernedalien11780 Aspiring Animated Television Writer from Wyomissing, PA Since: Sep, 2015
Aspiring Animated Television Writer
#18: Feb 5th 2016 at 9:57:36 PM

Not the biggest fan in the world YET, but I am more than willing to learn. Favorite characters are Gandalf, Gollum, and Gimli. #3Gs

It can't be helped.
Laithelryn Since: Mar, 2015
#19: Feb 5th 2016 at 10:55:50 PM

Salutations! ^__^
Which of his works have you read?~

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#21: Feb 27th 2017 at 3:35:06 PM

Oh, nice.

I swear, the owners of this work keep such a tight fist on all the rights to all the stuff. I'm upset there's been no further Battle Of Middle Earth games. Rise of the Witch King was amazing.

A bit clunky in terms of rts gameplay, but amazing.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
IncognitoNinja Gravity Beams and BIDIBIDIBIDIBIDI Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Gravity Beams and BIDIBIDIBIDIBIDI
#24: Mar 4th 2017 at 2:18:48 AM

Pardon me for the sudden question, but is there anyone here who was previously on the Council-of-Elrond forums?

I still keep the bookmark to the old URL even though it's pretty much a dead page now. (I wonder what caused it to go "poof"? Did the site's administrators lose interest or something?)

The site as it looked during the run-up to The Desolation of Smaug, via the Internet Wayback Machine.

"Learn as if you will live forever, live as if you will die tomorrow."
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#25: Mar 6th 2017 at 6:59:03 AM

Tolkien's online presence seems to be somewhat spotty, even here on TVT which surprised me, actually. I think the Tolkien Estate's refusal to sanction adaptations and installments has something to do with it. Without new merch to drive the fandom, fandom kinda.... stagnates.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

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