Changed w/o discussion: Motion Capture

The illustration for Motion Capture was changed around December 30th, and I don't see a trace of discussion about it.

The new one isn't bad, although it may be lacking a little in the concept of "motion", unlike the old one. It's more an example of Serkis Folk.

Anyway, I sent eroock an editing issue message about this. Previous image:

edited 29th Dec '14 1:38:27 AM by StFan

Both are technically examples of Serkis Folk. We need something where someone's mocap is used for multiple characters to make it fit Motion Capture as it's written.

I think I like both of those better on Serkis Folk page than current but there are some better ones I saw on google. like this one◊

anyway bottom left + right image?◊

or something simple◊

edited 29th Dec '14 5:41:27 PM by Memers

That second one is good for a general-purpose depiction; here's◊ a bigger version.

getting a 'too many redirects' error trying to view that on my phone.

I'm getting it as well, and I'm not using a phone.

Currently:

edited 30th Dec '14 1:04:10 AM by rodneyAnonymous

Here's that bigger version at wiki size.

The Halo◊ suggestion looks the best in my book, although I'm not too sure it'd still look good at Wiki size.

Help me out. What is the difference between Motion Capture and Serkis Folk as presented on here?

I'm just as confused.

Serkis Folk are about purely digital people/actors based on mocap instead of occasional special effects sequences. Mocap is just the process used in that creation but in no way exclusive to that as well as you can mocap anything even inanimate objects like a baseball.

So Serkis Folk is a subtrope of Motion Capture purely for animate objects. That doesn't rhyme with Willbyr's request above for a shot of multiple mocap characters.

I don't think that distinction is made clear in the trope descriptions.

No, Serkis Folk is a subtrope for purely digital actors, they do not exist in real life but are seemingly. made real, given proper characterization and such. Mocap is literally everywhere and can be used for anything or anyone, for example a real life actor can't do X stunt so they use Mocap to create a digital double then have that double do the stunt. And digital creations do not always have to have Mocap to be made, many videogames do not.

Serkis Folk is a subtrope to Mocap but also could conceivably be created via Rotoscoping, which is still used in places like in anime for instance like this was done via Rotoscoping.

I agree.

edited 2nd Jan '15 2:09:53 PM by Memers

Your digital actor example for Motion Capture would be my idea of Serkis Folk. Can you give an example that is less prone to be mistaken?

Well the closest I can find would be the one in post 8 as that is specifically about the motion capture process and nothing about a digital only character created in the process.

Am I right to assume that motion capture covers instances where a room is tagged with these little reflectors to capture the plane wherein something is happening? Other tha that I cannot see why we distinguish between Motion Capture and Serkis Folk. Isn't 8.1 also showing a digital version of the actor? Examples are also overlapping. Shouldn't this be taken somewhere else before we talk images?

edited 4th Jan '15 4:06:42 AM by eroock

My understanding of it was that motion capture is about the technique, while Serkis Folk is precisely about a character in a otherwise normal live-action setting that is made entirely by motion capture.

That sounds like a suitable trope description to me.

Bingo, which is exactly why I'm in favor of the guy doing the mocap modeling.

The guy doing the mocap modeling is 8? I don't like that one. It's so focused on the guy in the odd pose that you can barely see the screen.

...okay, I honestly don't know if I should take that seriously or not, the screens and the captures on them are completely evident.

I like 8.

8 looks fine for me.