Ambiguous Name: We All Live In America

The trope is about when an author portrays, in fiction, a real life location foreign to them inaccurately by failing to account for how it is different from where they live.

The current name is horribly misleading: it makes it sounds like the trope is specifically about Americans (whether fiction author, characters in-universe, or just random real life people) forgetting that other countries exist. As the body of the article state, it is not necessarily being done by Americans and strictly about fictional portrayals of other countries.

Before I took them out, half the examples were about things real life people said or wrote outside of fiction, including the every example in the "Web Original" section, and there was also "News", and "Real Life" sections. Since this trope is a form of Artistic License, and thus about fiction, it should not have non-fictional examples (which all of the latter two categories are by definition).

The Trope Namer, Amerika, is not an example of this trope or even a discussion about it, being more about Eagleland and Eagleland Osmosis.

edited 14th Dec '14 3:35:10 PM by thatother1dude

How about Provincial Creator?

That's almost the same thing as Creator Provincialism (which this is a subtrope of or at least related to).

Far Away Is Here? Cultural Equivalence Assumption?

edited 14th Dec '14 10:41:29 PM by thatother1dude

This trope has 1847 inbounds, for the record. Also, I don't think the other proposed names are a jot better.

I see that as more of an argument against cutting. I think we've renamed some tropes that had even more inbounds.

For a new title, my best idea is All Countries Use The Same Conventions.

The current name is adequate. Tropes Are Flexible after all.

edited 23rd Dec '14 8:51:38 PM by Zyffyr

But the trope name sounding overly narrow is not the only problem. Compared to what the name indicates, the actual trope is wider in some regards, but narrower in others.

Wider because it applies to works written in countries besides America. Narrower because it's about fictional portrayals of a real place resembling the creator's country of origin even when this is inaccurate, but the name makes it sounds like any case of people forgetting countries besides their own exist/are different, which is a ridiculously broad concept.

edited 23rd Dec '14 9:27:04 PM by thatother1dude

"Broad concept", ridiculous or no, is not what People Sit on Chairs means. Like, not at all.

On second thought, I think you're right, that isn't People Sit in Chairs and broadness isn't the problem.

What I should have said is that the name makes people think the trope means "people forgetting other countries exist", which the page is not about and should not be about because it's too subjective and speculatory to be trope-worthy, and invites people to write examples that have nothing to do with fiction at all.

Clock is set.

Would a simple rename like We All Live Like Americans work?

I like that

That definitely get's the point of the trope across better. It still makes it sound like the trope only applies to people living like Americans though... still, it is an improvement.

Hmm. How about Everyone Lives Like Us? No nationality mentioned, so doesn't seem too specific?

Both of these names are line of dialogue titles. They won't be allowed on an alt-names crowner.

Darn. I suppose something like Earth Has No Cultural Diversity Or Earth Is A Planet Of Hats wouldn't work either.

Earth Has One Culture?

All the "Earth" themed trope names are more suited for science fiction tropes rather than this.

How about simply No Cultural Diversity? Or Cookie Cutter Culture?

I'm running out of ideas...

Extending clock.

Clock is up with no progress; closing.