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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#676: Jun 21st 2015 at 5:55:56 AM

Plus there's the sense she was only keeping Oliver as an agent because she was mad he accidentally ruined her plot to kill China White.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#677: Jun 21st 2015 at 8:25:13 AM

My only exposure to Waller's character is DCAU, Attack on Arkham and The Arkham games. From what I've seen, Arrow's Waller really is the outlier.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#678: Jun 21st 2015 at 9:51:00 AM

The DCAU version of her is one of the best versions - the perfect mix of well meaning, unscrupulous but for a reason, and unrelenting to those who don't deserve otherwise.

I'm also a fan of the Young Justice Animated version of her, personality-wise.

edited 21st Jun '15 9:51:09 AM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#679: Jun 21st 2015 at 10:42:45 AM

I can't remember her on Young Justice. My rage over it getting canceled must've blown out chunks of my memory.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#680: Jun 21st 2015 at 12:04:16 PM

Young Justice Waller was a warden for some prison. She only showed up for one episode and much of the episode was focused on Superboy and Miss Martian's romance.

edited 21st Jun '15 12:04:29 PM by VeryMelon

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#681: Jun 21st 2015 at 4:37:10 PM

I first knew about Waller from Justice League but didn't really look into the character until after I saw Green Lantern (by the way, I liked how that article didn't find fault with their version of Waller, simply because Angela Bassett is the kind of actor you want to play the character). The great thing about her is just how atypical she is considering the genre: overweight, middle aged, technically a bureacrat but she makes it look badass.

Also, the other wiki notes that Waller is considered a villainous character by virtue of opposing the heroes, and was listed as one of the best comic book villains by IGN. So Davis saying her character is a villain is not really unprecedented.

ElkhornTheDowntrodden Since: Apr, 2015
#682: Jun 21st 2015 at 5:00:35 PM

Is the Suicide Squad even legal, as a concept?

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#683: Jun 21st 2015 at 5:03:39 PM

[up]Attaching bomb collars to dangerous criminals and making them do your bidding or else? Well, it's probably more legal than a Human Centipede, but not by all that much.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#684: Jun 21st 2015 at 5:09:33 PM

Recruiting the Criminal is very much Truth in Television. Boxed Crook slightly less so, but there are some scenarios that can happen. As portrayed by the Suicide Squad, very much illegal. Consider how upset the public was upon learning of "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques" being used on known criminals, then add "bomb placed inside your spine if you get out of line" to the headline.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#685: Jun 21st 2015 at 5:26:46 PM

With that in mind it's hardly surprising when writers portray Waller like her Arroe incarnation.

ElkhornTheDowntrodden Since: Apr, 2015
#686: Jun 21st 2015 at 6:29:32 PM

[up][up]You mean when the public learned terrorists, suspected terrorists, and people grabbed off the street and turned over for the bounty on terrorists were being tortured.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#687: Jun 21st 2015 at 6:56:59 PM

Young Justice Waller was a warden for some prison.

Belle Reve, to be precise. It's probably going to show up in the movie, actually, since it's typically the Suicide Squad's headquarters.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#688: Jun 21st 2015 at 6:57:26 PM

[up]Let's not get into that...

Honestly, all you need to remember while writing the Wall is "how does this make the public safer/better" whenever she's about to do something. Arrow Waller is pretty much just a super villain that's on the right side of the law.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#689: Jun 21st 2015 at 7:03:34 PM

Seemed like she did in the other versions I've seen of her. Then again, I quit watching Arrow mid-season 2. Mostly due to the crossover with Flash spoiled it for me and just lack of motivation.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#690: Jun 21st 2015 at 10:15:39 PM

Waller is actually characterized by NOT being an extremist. She is very particular about her goals even though the methods might be morally ambiguous, such as the Suicide Squad itself.

ElkhornTheDowntrodden Since: Apr, 2015
#691: Jun 21st 2015 at 10:37:57 PM

Yup, Waller's just a Hard Woman making Hard Decisions that you can't possibly understand!

Really, you'd think more readers' "This is a very bad thing" alarms would be tripped by the concept of the government making supervillains kill for it on pain of death.

edited 21st Jun '15 10:40:33 PM by ElkhornTheDowntrodden

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#692: Jun 22nd 2015 at 3:25:10 AM

Well if the Avengers and the JL can still be seen as heroes after stories like Civil War, Identity Crisis, Infinity, Avengers vs X-Men, Tower of Babel etc.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#693: Jun 22nd 2015 at 6:21:47 AM

"Nobody double-crosses THE WALL."

For all the good parts in Assault on Arkham, I will never understand that line.

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#694: Jun 22nd 2015 at 7:18:40 AM

The Wall is Amanda's nick name.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#696: Jul 4th 2015 at 4:47:47 AM

[up]Its sort of related Margot Robbie is celebrating her birthday in character.

Batman Ninja more like Batman's Bizarre Adventure
Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#698: Jul 11th 2015 at 1:57:02 PM

Me to the rescue.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#699: Jul 11th 2015 at 2:15:21 PM

Just for the record Cruherexx, I love you.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#700: Jul 11th 2015 at 2:16:32 PM

Frankly it's a little disappointing. I'm not saying it should be full of jokes and laughs, but come on, it's a team formed by the world's most insane supervillains. Have a little fun with it, or at least make them badass.

The trailer is just...unnecessairily gloomy.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

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