Trimmed a bit more, but it's coming along well.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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Did a bit more. I rewrote the Tropes Are Not Bad part a bit and shortened it, moved the part talking about Product Placement and Cross Overs to be directly under the "reasons" paragraph, and tweaked the Screwed by the Network mention.
edited 2nd Jan '16 4:07:53 PM by Karxrida
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
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Did a few more very slight tweaks. The description is still a bit long, but I think it's been cut done to an acceptable length (if the "compare/contrast" part is excluded from being counted).
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
How sweet it is
Well, it does look a lot better. ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
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More opinions on the sandbox would be appreciated. I got the approval of 2 mods, but I don't think that's enough.
After this we need to check the examples and try to rewrite the problematic ones.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
It's fine you can swap it.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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Swapped and cutlisting sandbox.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Good work. Have the examples been looked over?
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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Not yet, I was solely focused on the description. There are many subpages and over 6,000 wicks.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Yeah, it's a big task. Just checking on where we were.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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I'm not sure what to do with the Advertising subpage. This entire thing looks cutworthy, but I need more opinions.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
The pants on a hedgehog one is good.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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We'd still have to cut the page and move that example over to the normal page. 1 example isn't really enough to justify a separate page.
edited 3rd Jan '16 9:13:52 PM by Karxrida
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Then let's trim and merge. There are probably going to be more really short pages once our clean-up is done. I mean, card games only has four to start, and all of those are giant natter magnets.
edited 3rd Jan '16 9:17:59 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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I don't really know the markup for the non-folder headers, so give me a bit while I go find a page that uses it to curb off of. After that, I'll cutlist the page.
EDIT: Done. Did I do it correctly?
edited 3rd Jan '16 9:23:08 PM by Karxrida
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Perfect. Next stick the advertising page on the cut list and link this thread citing the reason: TRS clean up.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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Did that already and linked this discussion in the reasoning.
Also just copied the entirety of the Card Games part and listed it under Tabletop Games. I'll get to work on examples in a bit, but I'm cutlisting the page now.
edited 3rd Jan '16 9:27:45 PM by Karxrida
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Awesome. I'm going to see if I can't sort out the mess that is the card games page.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Just realised there was an Other page. Missed that first time through. Merge all too short pages there.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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Made one more description tweak to have Tropes Are Not Bad replaced with Tropes Are Tools, because I cannot help being a Serial Tweaker.
I have made more tweaks on the Others page.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
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Editing some of these can be hard when you don't know squat about the source material.
Been tweaking the Anime subpage a bit (read: cutting out some huge paragraphs). Help would be appreciated for stuff I may have butchered.
EDIT: The page also needs to be renamed to Anime and Manga.
EDIT 2: Need some opinions on the Code Geass entries. They sound more like the network or whoever was being stingy instead of meddling.
edited 5th Jan '16 11:18:53 PM by Karxrida
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Anime and Manga is sadly not my strong suit. I can poke at it when I get up, but the anime I watch doesn't seem to be the same as the anime the wiki likes.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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~Willbyr, you're an anime buff, right? I would appreciate your opinion on the Code Geass entry in ExecutiveMeddling.Anime if you can help out.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Pretty sure it's all meddling.
- It was planned for 50 episodes but was cut down to 25 while the series was in production.
- S2's timeslot was moved from Otaku O'Clock to the usual Gundam timeslot of 7 PM after it became a hit with a mandate to reintroduce the concept to the new audience, it forced them to do a reset of many plot elements and introduce new characters.
- a planned S3 was canceled which forced them to reduce entire arcs to mid episode montages in S2.
All of this was confirmed by show creators when asked about the train wreck S2 ended up being.
edited 9th Jan '16 10:52:54 PM by Memers
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What would be the best way to fix the page?
I've made some more substantial edits. It's definitely not done, but I'd like some input.
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