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Deadlock Clock: Nov 6th 2014 at 11:59:00 PM
Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: Sep 22nd 2014 at 8:54:42 AM

The image on Weasel Mascot is just a random weasel; unless this trope is intended to be "list of all weasels in fiction" then it needs a better image.

I'm afraid I don't have a clear example in mind; the trope description doesn't make clear to me what this trope is about. Apparently it's some kind of animal character that doesn't act like a cat or dog?

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#2: Sep 22nd 2014 at 7:04:46 PM

The original IP thread determined to not do anything until TRS could shore up the trope, but the TRS thread didn't go anywhere, so we're right back where we started. I'm fine with pulling it for JAWAAC.

edited 22nd Sep '14 7:04:57 PM by Willbyr

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3: Sep 22nd 2014 at 11:24:59 PM

Aye, pull this.

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#4: Sep 23rd 2014 at 2:42:55 PM

Yank it. Just a pic of a weasel.

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#5: Sep 23rd 2014 at 2:49:42 PM

[up][up][up] Looks like consensus in the TRS thread is to cut this as it's not a trope, and that didn't happen because our TRS system is still not working as well as it should. Any suggestions on how to tackle that?

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#6: Sep 23rd 2014 at 3:29:21 PM

[up]Re-create the thread, and add a Single-prop crowner to make the decision more official? Anyway, regardless of happens to the trope, that image needs to go. It's not illustrating anything.

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#7: Sep 23rd 2014 at 3:35:41 PM

[up] I think that by the current rules you're not allowed to make a crowner unless there's several pages of discussion. Threads where everybody simply agrees just tend to get locked because they're too short to crowner, and nothing can be done without a crowner. At least that's how it seemed to work last time I checked TRS, I tend to stay out of there for a reason tongue

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#8: Oct 1st 2014 at 10:22:28 AM

Bump; anyone else for pulling the current?

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#9: Oct 1st 2014 at 11:51:54 AM

Plus one to pull.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#10: Oct 1st 2014 at 12:08:40 PM

A collage of various mascots? We could get pics of Yuuno from Nanoha Chamo from Negima Daxter from Jak And Daxter Uzume from Ai Yori Aoshi Tarte from Fresh Precure and a few others with at least a few that really show them off especially the signature on the shoulder pose.

It is for sure a trope and very specifically a Magical Girl stereotype, even hentai Magical Girl shows get one.

edited 1st Oct '14 2:17:27 PM by Memers

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#11: Oct 1st 2014 at 2:14:47 PM

I don't see the need to pull; the trope is about weasels, and the pic is of a weasel. Is there more to the trope than that?

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#12: Oct 1st 2014 at 2:20:44 PM

[up] "Weasel" is not a trope.

Compare: "Rabbit" is not a trope either. "Trickster rabbit" is a trope, and so it needs an image of a rabbit being a trickster.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#13: Oct 1st 2014 at 2:28:46 PM

[up][up] Its not specifically about strictly weasels its more about weasel-like mascots IE mongoose, ermine, squirrel whatever the heck most of these are. Note: Not all are this trope, only 4 have the personality for it..

The key part of the trope is "cute, mischievous, playful mascot who nonetheless looks out mainly for himself and can be very critical of people around him but he is nowhere near as clever as he thinks he is, but talking is not actually required"

In Magical Girl one of these has been required since Cardcaptor Sakura. In Magical Girl and other series they are countered by the lead character who is close to a Goody Two Shoes but usually is easily flustered in an almost Manzai dynamic.

The chain smoking perverted Ermine who first joins the cast manipulating the main character in Negima probably exemplifies it the most I think hmm [1][2] how about one of these two?

EDIT: This work? or this[3]

edited 1st Oct '14 9:16:35 PM by Memers

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#14: Oct 1st 2014 at 8:24:17 PM

So far the only thing that seems like it's a good fit for the trope is the pic of Chamo in [up]. Here's a couple others of him that might work: 1, 2

edited 1st Oct '14 8:30:03 PM by Willbyr

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#15: Oct 1st 2014 at 9:11:32 PM

[up] That second one doesn't really fit too well, he is just loving being literally Strangled by the Red String.

Ok that wasn't exactly trope I was expecting. EDIT: I guess Red String of Fate was what I was looking for, but far far more general than I was expecting.

edited 1st Oct '14 9:30:19 PM by Memers

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#16: Oct 23rd 2014 at 1:00:43 AM

Clock is set.

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#18: Oct 26th 2014 at 11:18:48 AM

14-1 works.

Also, when this IP thread concludes, the trope should go through TRS.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#19: Nov 3rd 2014 at 9:15:15 AM

I'm gonna re-clock this to give some more time for discussion for/against any of the suggested options. Also, I've pulled the current.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#20: Nov 3rd 2014 at 10:15:24 AM

[up][up] I agree with the repair shop. It is 100% a thing, especially in certain genres, but right now the trope is written way too broad and yada.

I actually wouldn't mind renaming and restricting it to those genres and gender inversions and yada if we wanted to go that angle.

edited 3rd Nov '14 10:23:47 AM by Memers

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#21: Nov 3rd 2014 at 10:24:37 AM

My only concern is that it'd be the second time the trope went to TRS, after it timed out the first time (resulting in no real change).

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#22: Nov 7th 2014 at 8:57:17 AM

Well, this clock expired and there hasn't been much progress since; closing this.

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