The Loud House

Maybe they didn't have a cloud at fist, but got one later?

Personally, since the show has Negative Continuity I just pretend the 'bad' episodes (like No Such Luck) were either a Daydream Surprise or All Just a Dream like The Butterfly Effect or One of the Boys. People just need to adopt that mindset and they can get back to enjoying the show in peace.

Seriously, I'm starting to feel all these No Such Luck fics are major overreactions.

edited 21st Apr '17 7:12:50 PM by WorldTurtle2

Maybe Lisa made her own cloud?

Yeah, that and "April Fools Rules" have gotten the most hate fics. And unlike the latter, this involves all the Loud sisters holding the Jerkass Ball rather than just one.

And almost all of them involve "Reason You Suck" speeches, arrests, bullying and death.

Yeah, I respect people want to vent their issues out, but I feel their approach is a little off when they go the "death and arrest" route.

I wish episode "Spell it Out" will reveal Lucy's origin story like "For Bros About to Rock" revealed Luna's origin story. However I expect in this episode Lucy using her spell book to intimidate her siblings like in "A Tattler's Tale" Lola used blackmail to intimidate her siblings.

To be honest i'm still new to the series and haven't seen every episode yet, but I think of what I've watched so far ignoring NSL and Bit F I think Green House was the first episode I really hated.

The whole thing screamed 'idiot plot' to me: Lincoln has a big family, his teacher and classmates know this, expecting him to go Green would take a miracle. Threatening to make him a social outcast if he costed them the Polar Bear challenge? Then Clyde and those other two guys going over to Lincoln's house willing to waste his energy just so they could save theirs? Plus those two (and Clyde-though he would still hang out with Lincoln in secret) tell him they will have to treat him as an outcast when his sisters return to their energy wasting habits. Ignoring their own accountability for causing it.

Even if Lincoln was motivated by selfishness it goes without saying his sisters were being frivolous with their energy use. I'm surprised their parents haven't spoken to them yet about the energy bill... Unless in-universe this sudden excess of energy use was recent and Lincoln only really took notice when the assignment to 'Go Green' was given out.

Lincoln might have learned his lesson at the end, but when no one else did it fails as a Green Aesop episode.

edited 24th Apr '17 9:24:22 AM by WorldTurtle2

Some continuity errors annoy me, like no sister wanting Dairy Land in "One of the boys". A minor example that bothers me is Lincoln using bike from Lynn in "A Fair to Remember" after giving it to Lana in "Hand-me-downer".

edited 24th Apr '17 8:42:58 PM by FirstDrellSpectre

Well that's 30 seconds of my life I won't be getting back! And it's not even a good reaction video, just fan art of the Louds as God of War characters.

Okay, you say "nice" and I say, mildly disturbing. Like...wow.

Yeah, I have to agree with everyone else that that was just kind of stupid.

Well, less "fan art" and more "poorly photoshopped still images from the show".

Yeah, I admit. I was being too nice there as I didn't want to hurt the artist's feeling.

Seriously, where's the effort in the video!?!

Apparently, a user on TLH Wiki got a chance to meet Chris Savino at an LA Meet & Greet. Amanda Rynda and Miguel Puga were also there. As it turns out, they're aware that "Requiem for a Loud" exists and that they're horrified that someone would make a story like that.

Is this who you're talking about?

"I got take a selfie and ask a few questions they said that no episodes have ever been scrapped but Nick Studios does send notes and meddle with episodes"

This explains a lot.

^In what way were they horrified I wonder? Disgusted or more just shocked that their light-hearted comedy show could inspire such a dramatic and heart-wrenching story?

At least Requiem is respectful to the characters I wonder how they'd react to No Suck Luck fics where Lincoln is straight up murdered or commits suicide?

Man I hope Underrated Hero doesn't take this too personally if he hears about it.

edited 24th Apr '17 10:39:30 PM by WorldTurtle2

To characters pages of the show was added Rocky Spokes and Principal Huggins. I am surprised Maggie isn't mentioned here although she is quite popular because of Deviant Art are many fanarts of her. http://www.deviantart.com/newest/?section=&global=1&q=loud+house+maggie&offset=20

Yeah, same here.

I'll say this, though; if that's the most disturbing thing they've seen from the LH fandom, they're lucky.

I hope they're just shocked more then anything that someone would write something so sad. These kind of stories can help people cope with their own loss and terminal conditions (IIRC it was mentioned somewhere the Spanish version even has two terminally ill reviewers who expressed gratitude for the story).

I wonder how they'd react to A Dark House with Lincoln being suicidally depressed. Or Syngenesophobia where the sisters brutally beat Lincoln to the point he is now afraid of being in the same room as them. Even though I like both these stories (I enjoy psychology and character studies) I can understand why other people wouldn't. At least in Requiem Lincoln and his Family are trying to make the most of his situation.

Then there are all those NSL Fics where Lincoln dies (or nearly does) after getting kicked out of his house and his parents are arrested for neglect.

Let's not even get started on Loudcest or "I Love My Brother".

The internet likes to make things dark . Sometimes this works, but most of the time it doesn't.

edited 25th Apr '17 9:50:15 AM by WorldTurtle2

Personally, I wouldn't mind so many of them if most of them weren't guilty of the same pitfalls that I've seen in fics involving Lincoln's relationship with his family post-Bit F/NSL. The second I see them act like monsters to him because "plot" and I quickly turn away. It's like the aforementioned episodes are the only two they've ever seen and even then, their interpretatations of their characters aren't anywhere near as bad as the portrayals seen in those episodes (which aren't in any way intentionally malicious to begin with).

Yeah, it's pretty common for Lincoln's sisters to get the Ron the Death Eater treatment in fics. But what really irks me is that those same fic writers paint Lincoln as a complete saint and gloss over every instance of his character acting like a Jerkass.

I've even seen "The Sound of Silence" cited as an example of Lincoln's sisters being horrible to him, as if they were punishing him just for wanting some peace and quiet. Of course, they ignore the fact that he kept his noise-canceling earbuds on when Lola was clearly trying to talk to him- which was just rude, first of all, and it's not like there was anything preventing him from turning off his earbuds, responding to Lola's question and then turning them back on once she left the room.

Yeah if he just wanted peace and quiet to block out the noise so he could read his comics that would of been okay. It was going out in the hallway and deliberately ignoring everyone where he screwed up. What if there was an emergency?

Green House though is a good example of how Peer Pressure Makes You Evil (the social outcast threat) and Lincoln was basically pushed into the villain role by trying to please his classmates at the cost of his family. Clyde and those other two guys not helping the situation by coming over just so they wouldn't go into the red at their houses. Who then told Lincoln when his sisters resumed their energy wasting habits that they wouldn't hang out with him anymore (including Clyde-at least openly). Everyone was a jerk in that episode.

edited 25th Apr '17 11:04:38 AM by WorldTurtle2

That's definitely true. "St. Linc" is pretty irksome, too. Not only is it a disingenuous caricature but it's extremely unnecessary. He doesn't have to be perfect likeable but yet, all his faults are ignored while his sisters are vilified for the slightest "sins". Removing moral culpability from him to prop himself up is an incredibly annoying trend that's shown no signs of dying anytime soon.

And of course, those fics usually contain a The Reason You Suck speech from Lincoln that involves him dressing down his family for treating him like a "black sheep" with examples from episodes that come nowhere close to excusing his bratty, whiny tantrum.

And the kicker is, we're supposed to root for him for doing that and not feel sorry for his family for having to endure his petulant, babyish ranting. That's why I had to drop "What is a Person Worth?" Lincon addreses his family with a TRYS speech which involves him chewing out Lucy for not wanting to endure her sisters' teasing in "Sleuth or Consequences", which is not only a completely scummy thing for him to do but it spits on Lincoln's selflessness and nobility for taking the fall for Lucy's sake.

edited 25th Apr '17 12:03:04 PM by Second_Banana

Which episodes would you say he was genuinely unfairly treated or circumstances just screwed him over? I stand by Green House being a case of Peer Pressure Makes You Evil (also everyone else being a jerk).

Did you tell the author that in a review? You should. He did ask readers if they felt it was to OOC.

edited 25th Apr '17 12:11:45 PM by WorldTurtle2

Did you tell the author that in a review? You should. He did ask readers if they felt it was to OOC.

I most certainly did.

As for Lincoln getting the shaft unjustifiably, I'd say that the closest examples I can list are in "No Such Luck" and "April Fools Rules". Out of the two of them, only the former is really what I would call really bad since, y'know, getting locked out sucks but at least his family didn't do it out of malice and Lincoln had it coming. Plus, he voluntarily decided to sleep outside when he could've just slept on the couch or something. At least in "April Fools Rules", Ronnie Anne doesn't partake in Luan's cruelty so that's a saving grace.

Eh, I don't completely agree, as far as WIAPW goes. His jab at Lucy was a low blow that she in no way deserved, but aside from that, I think that rant was pretty justified, given what Lincoln had been through up until that point. They threw out his furniture (and yeah, Leni was going to make him new furniture, but he didn't know that). It's also a shame you had to stop reading at that point, because the following chapter has a really cute Lincoln/Ronnie Anne scene, and I know how much you love that pairing.

But I do see where you're coming from. At this point, all the vitriol towards No Such Luck is getting exhausting- and this is coming from someone who absolutely loathed that episode.

edited 25th Apr '17 12:43:39 PM by TyeDyeWildebeest

Eh, maybe I'll check out that moment since, yeah, Ronniecoln is absolutely adorable and all but I don't know if I'm ever going to be able to look past that low blow and continue further from there. It's not like the others didn't deserve it but Lucy? Heck no. I get that he's rightfully angry and all but falling on hard times isn't really an excuse to act like a Jerkass. Maybe if the narrative painted that as a moment of Lincoln's anger getting the best of him and him lashing out without thinking but no, I get the feeling that I'm supposed to feel vindicated that that happened to her.