Puella Magi Troper Magica

Well if you put it that way i can withdraw that character and play something else...

It's Gladonost's call, really; since he's accepted the character already, I think it means she's okay to go.

Yup.

About the typology, though, I'm not seeing a functional differences between the categories.

Eyeballing it, the stats for the canon characters would be as follow*:

Madoka: Power: Very High, XP: Low, Mental Stability: High

Mami: Power: Average, XP: Very High, Mental Stability: Very Low**

Sayaka: Power: Average, XP: Low, Mental Stability: Low

Kyouko: Power: Average, XP: High, Mental Stability: High

Homura: Power: Low, XP: Extremely High, Mental Stability: Very High

*Well, I kinda subsumes skill and potentials into power, but this is how I understands it.

**Which is why she alternately fights like a rookie and gets her head chomped, go full murder-suicides, and kicks homuhomu's posterior in the Rebellion movie.

edited 6th May '14 9:10:30 AM by Pblades

The main functional difference is how much they know about the 'verse, which in turn drives their combat strategy and tactics. Sayaka's reckless and aggressive with her magic, where Mami, Kyouko, and Homura are a bit more reserved and cautious, and due to the way corruption works Sayaka never really has a chance to learn to stabilize. The division is as much narrative as it is functional, though: a convenient shorthand for how much they know and how much they've learned.

It's also somewhat self-selecting: there are old meguca and bold meguca, but no old bold meguca, to bastardize a common saying; the higher you are on the scale, the more mentally stable you are, since if you weren't you'd have gone witch. For that reason I'd argue that Mami's mental stability beats out Sayaka's: she did survive regretting her choice of a wish and fighting on her lonesome for at least a year. Plus, most meguca fall apart due to stress and loneliness, not necessarily due to combat. To Type-III and Type-IV megucas, witches aren't the main threat any more (although they aren't to be underestimated, as Mami learned).

Also, I'd argue that Mami's sheer magic power is quite high, probably the highest out of everyone who's not Madokami, based on what we've seen of her combat style. She's got enough juice in reserve to not worry about firing off Tiro Finale shots at familiars, and she can shape the battlefield terrain at will with her ribbons.

Fair points, all. I'm still a bit iffy on the usefulness of Cat. 1, though. Charlotte, as a child, made a thoughtless wish then immediately realizes she should have made a better one. The stress of that, plus her mom's death, turns her into a witch. Madoka, on the other hand, turns into a witch in only two scenario- He Who Fights Monster, and magic overuse. The two are completely different, so Cat.1 would, functionally, be a bin to deposits who can’t hack it as a magical girl, which means it is either too narrow or too board.

I'm still not sure Mami score particularly high on the MS scale. She survives on her own, survives a couple betrayals (atleast, counting the ones on scene), and do a bang up job in general, but she's one of the two who effectively gives up over the course of the anime. At the times of showing, sure, she might beats out Sayaka. On the MS scale, she's certainly not up there with any other girls shown, though.

Yeah, Type-I is very much the "thank you for playing Kyubey Roulette, here's your grief seed and your witch form" bin. We only really see one confirmed case in the show (Nagisa-Charlotte), but it seems rather logical that there's a lot more of them offscreen; I count most instances of Madoka where it's implied that she made her wish to beat WPGNT and then succumbed shortly afterafter. As for Mami, it is up for debate, but I'm basing my evaluation off the fact that she's been witch-fighting for about as long as Kyouko has. She's an easy Type-III: the main criterion is that she survives regretting her wish, which put her beyond Sayaka.

From the hit SHAFT Film Wrath of the Lich Queen:

／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼: Madoka? (knock knock kn-knock knock)
Do you wanna make a contract?
Come on, just make a wish!
You won't be lonely anymore,
what are you waiting for,
I can make you rich!

Just look at all your buddies,
have you ever thought,
how cool it would be to fly?

Do you wanna make a contract?
Please hurry up and make a contract!

Madoka: Wait a sec, Kyubey!

／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼: Okay, bye...

(knock knock kn-knock knock)

Do you wanna make a contract?
Before Sayaka falls?
I'll make your grandest wish come true,
And all you have to do
is come when duty calls!

(Shut up, Homu.)

I'm getting quite impatient,
with you little girl,
so before I pass you by...
(mogu-mogu mogu-mogu mogu-mogu mogu-mogu)

(knock knock knock)

Madoka, please, I know you hear me.
Right now my patience is wearing thin.
What do you want? Is it a slice of cake?
You know that I can make
That easily happen!

I want you more than any other!
It's just you I see,
So what are you gonna do?

Do you wanna make a contract?

edited 6th May '14 9:54:12 AM by RenaTheArchmage

Honestly -aside from the obvious- I'd say witch fighting isn't really all that emotionally taxing. The mahou shojo are pretty much child soldiers, without the moral dilemma (concerning opponents) element. To put it in an RPG term, I'd say most mahou shojo have higher base stats than witch- which, considering how the system operates, makes sense. Kyuubey don't want the girls to die, after all.

Post like these are why I'm for the Rep + system to be implemented in most boards. In absences of that, .

You say that as someone who hasn't been exposed to his other filks. In all seriousness, though, that is wonderful!

And, yeah, in a straight fight, mahou shoujos have the advantage. For one thing, they're not insane, so they could plan and strategize. What breaks them down over time is attrition: witch-fighting's a lonely job, you can't reveal anything to your muggle friends, and those few MS friends you have start to disappear over the months. Most ordinary people can recover from despair. MSes can't.

edited 6th May '14 10:04:17 AM by SabresEdge

Speaking of muggle friends, is it alright that Kikuchi Emi has a few people (namely Fujika and some of the club staff) who know something about this?

Nope, remember that only girls with "potential" can see anything magical barring someone getting sucked into a labyrinth by which point they're pretty much a goner anyways. As far as Fujika knows, you're the daughter or granddaughter of the Emi she went to school with.

edited 6th May '14 11:19:32 AM by Gladonost

I was just thinking about the various Wishes a contractee might make and the effects those wishes would have on their power, in considering a potential character for this RP ^^.

An upbeat girl that recklessly makes a wish without thinking about it. Not that Kyuubey minds.

"I want to be a Dragon Master!" - Powers would obviously be around creating pet dragons to fight her battles.

"I wish I was an adult." - Powers? Might need some added words saying why she wanted this. This wish would make her an Adult, and so would be an Adult Magical Girl though perhaps she controls her age at will and when she assumes Magical Girl form she reverts back to her original age.

"I wish my family was rich." - Obvious how this could backfire :P. Not sure where the powers would go.

"I want to be able to bring stories to life!" - A Libromancer, she can reach into books and magically re-create the contents. Reach into King Arther to pull out Excalibur, things like that.

I still need to justify how the whole "owner of a nightclub" works. Perhaps the staff suspects or knows that Emi is much older than she appears to, and she makes strange outings at random times, but no one really wants to ask or know because they're paid fairly?

(This would make some funny rumours going on, like her being a vampire. You know, night outings, bringing young girls, appearing much older than she is... )

edited 6th May '14 2:31:36 PM by AtomicNut

"I wanna be rich!" Midas Touch.

Also, I remember that the wishes are not supposed to be granted in a Jackass Genie fashion (I.e., the wish to be rich wouldn't, say, give the family a bunch of counterfeit bank notes) but rather they backfire in a way they didn't think of (i.e., would their family even be happy being rich? How would economy suffer like this? Would her friends see her more as a meal ticket?)

edited 6th May '14 1:15:56 PM by Psyga315

I wonder if anyone goes with the classic "I want infinite wishes!"

The wishes seem to be granted to the spirit of the wish, but that they backfire because the wish itself was faulty.

The family might be rich but it might cause her parents to become greedy and start ignoring their daughter who wants and still remembers having a good relationship as rich parents are often shown to do. Etc, as you say.

edited 6th May '14 1:22:00 PM by StephanReiken

"I wish this wish would not backfire!"

／人◕ /\ ◕人＼ Fuck you.

edited 6th May '14 1:24:18 PM by RenaTheArchmage

Its not impossible for a wish to not Backfire.

Madoka's wish didn't backfire in Madoka's opinion.

But Madoka had to be very clever about it.

If you get nothing, but have to fight witches forever, that could be considered backfiring on you, so QB can't do that.

You also can't simply die.

In fact, QB will have to work very hard to satisfy you, and guarantee that the negative consequences do not outweigh the positives.

Of course, Kyubey can just go with the easiest route, go with the first, and tell you to go screw yourself, them's the rules.

edited 6th May '14 1:39:32 PM by RenaTheArchmage

It did backfire, though, with the whole "Despair enough to destroy the whole universe." It just turns out Madoka covered that eventuality.

Believe me, it'd be fun—but probably also gamebreaking—to pull anything from Welch's List. "I wish everything on this sheet of paper were true!" would one way to get Kyubey to pull a ragequit.

My personal theory is that Kyubey is going to expend as much energy on you as is worthwhile, since he does have to expend energy to do things, but he'll search for the most energy-efficient way to do it. Madoka gets the full package of wishes because he was expecting enough energy out of her to probably jumpstart a new universe if needed. For Kyouko, for instance, the simplest way to fulfill her wish was to add a passive "obey me" component to whatever her father said, as opposed to engineering/rewriting society to be receptive to his views.

That might be part of the whole "wish has enough power to exceed entropy" factor. If it costs him too much energy to execute the wish, and he doesn't recoup his expenditure by the power gained by you turning into a mahou shoujo, that'd be a net loss in energy—in short, entropy would increase instead of decrease.

edited 6th May '14 2:32:14 PM by SabresEdge

And then you're that douchebag who's killing the universe just because you don't want to die like everyone else.

Actually as I understood it, wishes are granted by Kyubey shaping the power released when he forms their Soul Gem and is therefore tied to their inborn potential/fate i.e. Madoka's wish could rewrite reality whereas someone else trying that would get just a simple, "That is not within my means." or somesuch.

Same result, though. In general, whether he won't grant such a wish or if he couldn't, if the power the wish would require exceeds the power generated by the transformation from human into meguca, then Kyubey would presumably nix the wish and tell you to ask for something that doesn't hasten the process of entropy.

Good to know given our crop of five potential wish-makers.

edited 6th May '14 6:59:47 PM by SabresEdge

I'm still here! Just very under the weather at the moment, uggggh. Post coming soon!