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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#1: Apr 16th 2014 at 8:21:18 AM

What's the difference between this and Everything's Worse With Bees? Both are simply about being attacked by a swarm of bees. Gosh Hornet isn't even about hornets, as one would think from the name, but is about bees, which are not related.

Also, what's up with the "Gosh" part of the name? That doesn't communicate anything.

I propose either...

  1. Making the description and examples of Gosh Hornet exclusively about hornets, and moving all the bee stuff to Everything's Worse With Bees
  2. Merging the two under a new name and include bees, hornets, wasps and other nesting/swarming flying stinging insects all in one trope.

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#2: Apr 16th 2014 at 9:09:20 AM

[up] I think the second option is better...I think Gosh Hornet is supposed to be a play on Gosh Darn It to Heck! but I could bee wrong.

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#3: Apr 16th 2014 at 9:11:44 AM

Second option for me.

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tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#6: Apr 16th 2014 at 1:10:59 PM

[up]Hmm, that one might get misuse for ants as well

Leaper Since: May, 2009
#7: Apr 16th 2014 at 11:38:42 PM

[up][up][up] Perhaps keep the name Everything's Worse With Bees?

edited 16th Apr '14 11:39:09 PM by Leaper

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#8: Apr 16th 2014 at 11:50:38 PM

No, that is too vague and part of a snowclone family we are trying to reduce.

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Leaper Since: May, 2009
#9: Apr 17th 2014 at 2:42:52 AM

Then again, this thread isn't about Everything's Worse With Bees at all. Shouldn't we agree on the merge first, then address Everything's Worse With Bees in a new thread?

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#10: Apr 17th 2014 at 3:58:58 AM

No, because we don't start a thread for each trope if we are discussing merging them. It would be good to put a notification somewhere on Everything's Worse With Bees that we are discussing a merge here, though.

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#11: Apr 17th 2014 at 6:18:48 AM

Attacking Insect Swarm works. It's broad enough to cover fire ants and other non-flying insect attacks.

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#12: Apr 17th 2014 at 6:59:44 AM

Swarm Of Stinging

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caramel_cod Since: Aug, 2009
#13: Apr 17th 2014 at 8:49:21 AM

It has to remain specifically about bees/wasps/hornets, or at least general stinging insects, so Attacking Insect Swarm doesn't really work.

Something like "Bees. My God." is obvious, but hopefully we can be a bit more creative than that. Swarm of Stinging works too, but is it... "zesty" enough?

To take one of Catbert's and change it a bit, what about "Bad News Bees"?

edited 17th Apr '14 8:56:09 AM by caramel_cod

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#14: Apr 17th 2014 at 1:47:37 PM

Bee Afraid, maybe?

*runs faaaaar away*

edited 17th Apr '14 1:48:17 PM by MyFinalEdits

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#15: Apr 23rd 2014 at 5:38:20 AM

Do we have sufficient consensus on merging these two, or do we want a crowner just to be sure?

GiantSpaceChinchilla Since: Oct, 2009
#16: Apr 23rd 2014 at 3:40:52 PM

If it helps I can confirm that Gosh Hornet was a pun on Gosh Darn It to Heck!

back in 2009 the suggestions were Gosh Hornet, Bee Ware The Angry Noisy Cloud, Buzz Agent Of Wasp, or Horse Fly Stampede? not sure were Everything's Worse With Bees was at the time.

Apiform Attack? Territorial Swarm? meh I'll go back to lurking

edited 23rd Apr '14 3:41:16 PM by GiantSpaceChinchilla

Leaper Since: May, 2009
#17: Apr 24th 2014 at 7:34:23 PM

So no one ever minded that hornets aren't bees? :P

Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#18: Apr 28th 2014 at 11:57:22 AM

Just to get things moving, I've created a page action crowner. I've only added on option, but if anyone else has ideas they can add them.

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GiantSpaceChinchilla Since: Oct, 2009
#19: Apr 29th 2014 at 4:38:50 PM

[up][up] nope.

Also, the picture for Everything's Worse With Bees would look great in Bee People once a decision is made.

[down] maybe, fodder for a different discussion at least.

edited 20th May '14 7:56:56 PM by GiantSpaceChinchilla

Someoneman Since: Nov, 2011
#20: Apr 29th 2014 at 6:25:01 PM

[up] Actually, the image for Everything's Worse With Bees would not work on Bee People, because Bee People is not about human-like bees, but rather about a race that follows an eusocial system, which the Everything's Worse With Bees picture does not illustrate.

edited 29th Apr '14 6:25:14 PM by Someoneman

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#21: Apr 29th 2014 at 6:57:35 PM

Hollered to hook crowner. I actually like Bee Afraid. I think I was going to suggest that before seeing (or forgetting that) it was already suggested.

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#22: Apr 29th 2014 at 6:57:55 PM

I've hooked the suggested crowner; the other options should be added.

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#23: Apr 29th 2014 at 8:21:22 PM

Voted for a merge.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#24: May 3rd 2014 at 12:36:26 PM

Calling to merge the two pages to create a trope with a new name that covers bees, hornets and wasps.

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#25: May 3rd 2014 at 1:07:18 PM

So, now it's time to look for a new name. I like Bee Afraid. Though the name has bees in it, I think we can all agree that it covers all of them.

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28th Apr '14 11:54:30 AM

Crown Description:

Gosh Hornet and Everythings Worse With Bees have nearly the same description and apparently identical definitions. They are both about bee attacks.

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