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Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1: Mar 15th 2014 at 9:17:59 PM

So apparently, Trivia tropes on main work pages turn the bullet into an interrobang now. Good stuff. I don't think this was documented.

However, can I propose that we make it do the "While you're here, this needs to be moved to the trivia tab" warning like red-bulleted YMMV listings do?

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#2: Mar 15th 2014 at 11:09:22 PM

Likewise, YMMV entries on the main page are now represented by a balancing scale. Much MUCH harder to see compared to the red dots that stuck out like a sore thumb.

Also, when I moused over the trivia icon, it gave me a tooltip saying it needed to be moved to the trivia tab.

edited 15th Mar '14 11:10:16 PM by DRCEQ

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#3: Mar 16th 2014 at 2:58:36 AM

In my mind, the new icons are a bit less intrusive than the old ones. I like them.

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#4: Mar 16th 2014 at 2:59:05 PM

Weren't the YMMV ones balancing scales originally? And were changed to the red dot specifically because it stuck out more and brought more attention to the fact that this entry needed moving out?

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#5: Mar 16th 2014 at 3:01:06 PM

Given the hike in new Trivia subpages I've observed in the last 24 hours, I would say that icons aren't less effective than red bullets.

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#6: Mar 16th 2014 at 4:53:22 PM

[up][up] I always remembered them as red dots. /shrug

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#7: Mar 17th 2014 at 1:20:07 AM

Okay, this is weird. Ray Stevens told me to move "Playing Against Type" to YMMV, even though that's a Trivia and not YMMV. But Steam Powered Giraffe told me nothing about "The Danza" being on the main page even though that's trivia. What's going on?

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#8: Mar 20th 2014 at 11:01:35 AM

I think the Trivia interrobang should be red also.

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#9: Mar 21st 2014 at 12:20:36 PM

FINALLY they've done this. Sure, it's not too noticeable, but I love that they've already marked out-of-place Trivia.

I think they should be made bright blue if you want them to be more noticeable.

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rexpensive Since: Feb, 2014
#10: Mar 21st 2014 at 1:59:28 PM

Hey is it supposed to change the bullet when the just has a trivia trope potholed within it somewhere? Because I am seeing them on entries that are not triva but pothole trivia because something like whether or not it was exported or what Word of God said was sort of relevant. When I see stuff like that should I remove the pothole to get rid of the innterobang or what?

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#11: Mar 21st 2014 at 2:15:07 PM

It counts the first link at any bullet level. If you see a Trivia pothole under those circumstances, it is almost certainly Natter. Consider something like this...

That second bullet should be removed, sent to Trivia, or edited into the example.

edited 21st Mar '14 2:36:50 PM by Fighteer

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#12: Mar 21st 2014 at 3:57:51 PM

I see. What I have been seeing is, like

  • trope:
    • example one
    • example two (and Word of God confirms it!)

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#13: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:57:19 PM

Yeah, that's kind of bad. Why does Word of God need to confirm anything, unless it's speculation of some sort which doesn't belong on main articles anyway. If the example really does require confirmation, then use a proper citation.

edited 21st Mar '14 4:58:32 PM by Fighteer

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#14: Mar 23rd 2014 at 11:21:43 AM

Trivia is no longer flagged in Creator articles, since they are mostly trivia, anyway. Trivia is only flagged in pagetypes work and examples.

edited 23rd Mar '14 11:22:34 AM by FastEddie

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#15: Mar 26th 2014 at 3:00:03 AM

I do agree somewhat with the sentiment that the current balance icons for YMMV are simply not visible enough. While I like the actual design, their muted-gold colour simply doesn't register very well against website's white background. It would be an improvement to make the icon more contrasting: I would suggest making the scales' frame in darker yellow (i.e. more like actual gold) colour while the measuring cups could be coloured in dark red/burgundy. After all, we already have multi-coloured "ninja" icon for the forums, so this shouldn't be beyond our abilities.

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#16: Mar 26th 2014 at 4:09:41 AM

Someone needs to make the image, then Eddie can decide if it's worth the trouble of switching out.

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#17: Mar 26th 2014 at 5:55:21 AM

I have yet to see a page where this has showed up...all I've seen so far is the interrobang.

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#19: Mar 26th 2014 at 11:30:23 AM

[up] Thanks. If you'll pardon the pun, I don't see what the problem is, that leaps right out at me.

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#20: Mar 28th 2014 at 9:08:55 PM

So... now that the site is telling us to move trivia to the trivia page, I guess that means we gotta apply an In-Universe tag to all Invoked examples on work pages, huh?

edited 28th Mar '14 9:10:30 PM by DRCEQ

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#22: Mar 29th 2014 at 3:59:34 AM

That, or put [[invoked]] in the line; either is fine.

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#23: Mar 29th 2014 at 7:13:26 AM

Just be sure it's really an In-Universe example, and not "this was done intentionally, yo" as I've seen a few times.

edited 29th Mar '14 7:13:46 AM by Fighteer

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#24: Mar 29th 2014 at 7:56:40 AM

[up] Well for internet reviewers like Todd In The Shadows, anything he says counts as In-Universe because it's his opinion that's being objectively recorded.

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