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Shota Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#76: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:04:05 PM

Yeah.

I'd like to know why they still keep the Steamboat Willie animation in their vanity plate! THAT would be answer I look forward to!

edited 12th Jul '14 9:05:05 PM by Shota

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#77: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:48:48 PM

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I also miss Disney's traditional animation. I loved how smooth the animation was and I hope that Disney gets it back (even though we are kind of getting it through their shorts).

edited 12th Jul '14 9:54:05 PM by Rabbitearsblog

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#78: Jul 12th 2014 at 11:10:47 PM

I am not so sure about "Song of the Sea"...while I admire "Secret of Kells" for trying something different and the unusual design, I feel that a lot of it's animation is about hiding short cuts. There are only limited movements, most characters have constantly the same expression and the is a lot of reused animation in the movie. But who knows, perhaps "Song of the Sea" will combine the unusual style with something a little more fluent.

KlarkKentThe3rd Since: May, 2010
#79: Jul 13th 2014 at 5:10:48 PM

Have this hour-long interview with Don Bluth from 2010. 4 years old is fresh enough to still be relevant. And if you think it is too old, then you have no soul.

edited 13th Jul '14 5:11:17 PM by KlarkKentThe3rd

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#80: Jul 13th 2014 at 6:11:50 PM

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Interesting! Four years is definitely not that long ago, so there might be a chance for traditional animation to make a comeback!

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Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#81: Jul 13th 2014 at 6:22:54 PM

Can I get the cliffnotes version of that interview?

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KlarkKentThe3rd Since: May, 2010
#82: Jul 13th 2014 at 7:50:32 PM

[up]Don said basically this: "if you love something, be willing to fight for it". Many many times he emphasized the importance of stopping complaining, getting up, and doing something.

Oh, and don't say things like "oh it's an hour, too long for me". You have an hour of spare time. You know it, as do I.

edited 14th Jul '14 12:25:05 PM by KlarkKentThe3rd

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#83: Jul 13th 2014 at 9:15:14 PM

I probably should have said "died in terms of mainstream movies". It's still around in shows (or at least they use a program to animate it but it gives us an image of hand drawn) and in other countries (Anime).

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Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#84: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:09:15 PM

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I hope that traditional animation does make a comeback to the mainstream movies. It would be interesting to see how long the viewers will watch CGI animated movies until they want to see something different.

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Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#85: Jul 14th 2014 at 5:45:53 AM

Just curious, what do you guys call "traditional animation" ?

swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#86: Jul 14th 2014 at 6:39:37 AM

[up]Cell animation is usually considered traditional animation (though the cells haven't been hand painted for a long, long time, and since Disney created CAPS, most of it is done at the computer).

This might help: http://swanpride3.wordpress.com/2014/06/18/the-history-of-western-animation-in-film/

Basically there is "Traditional Animation", "CGI" and "Stop motion" (there are sub-categories of those, but I would call them the mayor methods). In short, "Stop motion" is filming something (puppets for example) and then bringing them to live by shooting them in different positions, Traditional Animation means to create animation out of paintings, and CGI are computer images which are programmed to move in a special way. There is also "motion capture", though the judgement is still out if that's animation or not, since it basically captures the movement of real actors and then puts them in a CGI world.

KlarkKentThe3rd Since: May, 2010
#87: Jul 14th 2014 at 12:27:15 PM

[up][up]When every frame is drawn by hand. If no CG is used, and no tweaking with Flash is implemented, the picture is completely traditional.

Whether or not things are drawn on paper or tablet matters zilch. It does not affect the end result (the same way resolution does not affect frame rate in a video).

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#88: Jul 14th 2014 at 1:23:26 PM

But traditional animation still exists; there are still plenty of show with it.

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#89: Jul 14th 2014 at 1:38:49 PM

Yeeeaaah, "come back" is a vague term. In many ways, traditional animation is now in more places than ever before.......... but not in American feature films.

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#90: Jul 14th 2014 at 4:01:29 PM

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Yeah, but not in the mainstream American animated movies and who knows how long they would stick around in television.

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Shota Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#91: Jul 14th 2014 at 5:43:28 PM

Okay, anyone wonder WHY we're all harping on American animated Hollywood movies and acting like traditional animation is dying, while it actually exists in nearly every other country and every other entertainment outlet? ...... because those American films make the most money and every one of those other areas TRY to be like them!! Hollywood sets a preset for any other type of animation to strive to be, even if they don't have a big budget, resources, talent, or money themselves. THAT is what is considered the leader in everyone else. THAT is what seeps into people's consciousness anytime they think of animation! ..... and when there's NO traditional animation in those films? ..... well.... it may take decades or centuries, but I am confident drawings will completely.... disappear!!!

edited 14th Jul '14 5:44:23 PM by Shota

Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#92: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:08:24 PM

Oh, and don't say things like "oh it's an hour, too long for me". You have an hour of spare time. You know it, as do I.
Uh, no, no I don't. Has it occurred to you I might work two jobs, take classes, have a radio show, have friends to spend time with, and need to shove some time in between there to sleep and eat (in addition to possibly using other spare time to indulge in entertainment to which I'm already committed)? Don't be so presumptuous, please.

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Yuanchosaan antic disposition from Australia Since: Jan, 2010
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#93: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:48:44 PM

^^Tosh. Whilst artists exist, drawing will continue to exist. CGI animation requires concept art and early (hand-drawn!) animations, at the very least.

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#94: Jul 15th 2014 at 6:57:22 AM

[up][up]Stop motion was for a long time something which mostly European companies did,...but since "Nightmare before Christmas", there have been a lot of high quality Stop Motion pictures. Traditional animation will never die...but as long as the "big studios" don't do it, it is in the danger to stagnate.

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#95: Jul 15th 2014 at 11:55:54 AM

[up]I think your arrows need adjusting there.

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#96: Jul 16th 2014 at 12:55:39 AM

^^Tosh. Whilst artists exist, drawing will continue to exist. CGI animation requires concept art and early (hand-drawn!) animations, at the very least.

I agree with this, especially if they want to know how the characters will be designed in the first place.

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teddy Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#97: Jul 25th 2014 at 12:51:21 PM

I would definitely love to see more energetic animation in cartoons with funny and unique movements/facial expressions. It being traditionally animated would be a great bonus :)

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teddy Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#99: Jul 25th 2014 at 1:18:32 PM

Its nice to see cgi trying to get the cartoony back in animation. It usually tries to have realistic movements! Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs is also a nice example of cartooniness in cgi.

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#100: Jul 25th 2014 at 1:26:14 PM

The Madagascar, and now Penguins, franchise is the most cartoony series Dreamworks Animation has. SONY's animation division always tries to produce cartoony CGI as part of its business model. Also count Despicable Me to an extent, some of Blue Sky Studio's films, and Free Birds. It's getting more and more common. I just wish people would just use hand-drawn animation more.

edited 25th Jul '14 1:27:38 PM by kyun


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