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#1: Feb 28th 2014 at 5:48:29 PM

Sinister Shades is a trope about how shades are used as a way to make a character more intimidating, with wearers generally being villains or Anti Heroes.

The picture just shows a smiling Kim Jong-Il wearing a pair of shades, illustrating the shades part but not the sinister part for those that don't recognize him by sight (Not to mention there's the inherent problem of using Real Life examples to illustrate villain related tropes).

It shouldn't be that hard to find pictures of characters wearing shades and being intimidating. For example, here's one of the Terminator I found after doing a quick Google search.

edited 28th Feb '14 5:51:59 PM by Servbot

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#2: Feb 28th 2014 at 5:56:14 PM

I guess the image is supposed to be funny, but yeah, those glasses don't look very sinister at all. Terminator is fine, but considering how easy it is to find a pic, let's let the examples pile up so we'll have a nice hefty Image Links.

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#3: Feb 28th 2014 at 7:34:07 PM

[tdown][tdown] to the current. The suggestion is a little too dark; how are these? 1, 2 The second might be a little too close to JAFAAC, but I think the expression sells it.

Also, here's a couple of Smith: 1, 2

edited 28th Feb '14 7:39:52 PM by Willbyr

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#4: Feb 28th 2014 at 11:01:34 PM

I think the first Agent Smith is the best suggestion so far.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
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#5: Feb 28th 2014 at 11:42:45 PM

I like the OP suggestion best. The way he carries his gun and and his expression says a lot about the sinister aspect.

3.1 could work, but the image is even darker, and the focus seems to be on the gun rather than the shades.

edited 28th Feb '14 11:44:45 PM by theAdeptrogue

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#6: Mar 1st 2014 at 1:13:50 AM

I vote for pulling current immediately while collecting suggestions for a replacement.

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#7: Mar 1st 2014 at 1:25:17 AM

Pull current. Of the 3 images, 3.3 has a threatening aspect that is missing from the other images.

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#8: Mar 3rd 2014 at 10:25:02 PM

I'm with Septimus on this one. The problem with the Ahnold images is that Ahnold looks like he could just as easily be a cheesy eighties action hero when he wears sunglasses.

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#9: Mar 4th 2014 at 8:39:24 AM

Found a brighter image of the OP suggestion, although it seems to reduce the sinister aspect.

Several other suggestions: [1] [2] [3]

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#10: Mar 4th 2014 at 11:10:56 AM

[up] The third one is the best of those. I think the Terminator pics pretty much need the glowing Red Eye to work.

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#11: Mar 9th 2014 at 5:49:19 PM

Is this pretty much a rare instance where a face and caption is okay? :)

Wesker With One Red Eye Wesker With Two Wesker looking angry And Wesker with Claire just for one with context.

edited 9th Mar '14 5:50:45 PM by Lakija

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#12: Mar 9th 2014 at 8:07:59 PM

[up] The third one is the only one that unequivocably says "sinister" to me...it's a problem I have with most of the T2!Terminator suggestions.

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#13: Mar 9th 2014 at 8:12:52 PM

I think the "sinister" part is more or less YMMV. For that matter, I don't see the Agent Smith suggestion as sinister

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#14: Mar 9th 2014 at 8:19:08 PM

^^^ No. Please read the article Just a Face and a Caption. It doesn't mean literally "just a picture of a face" (in many cases that's fine); it could be called "Just A Building And A Caption" or "Just A Shoe And A Caption" (and so on) instead, but pictures of characters are by far the most common offenders. For example, the most probable JAFAAC concern with this would be about an image of a character who is sinister in the work, but doesn't look sinister in that particular image.

^ Some borderline cases may be subjective, but there are many ways a character could look unquestionably like a bad guy. The word sinister is more nuanced than bad guy, but Agent Smith's suit and scowl are good enough for me. Certainly it's an improvement on the current image, which depicts someone smiling.


Here is 11.2, cropped and 350 tall:

edited 9th Mar '14 11:20:17 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#15: Mar 9th 2014 at 8:35:55 PM

[up]I really like that one.

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#16: Mar 10th 2014 at 4:09:21 AM

[up][up] Fair points. That's pretty decent.

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#17: Mar 10th 2014 at 5:25:53 AM

14 is good enough, I guess

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#18: Mar 10th 2014 at 8:24:12 AM

^^^^^Thanks. That's much clearer now.

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Paktra Since: Sep, 2013
#19: Mar 10th 2014 at 2:51:55 PM

Downfall

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The Third Reich (notice the cold ghostly stare of the officer on the far left.)

And Abercrombie & Fuhrer! cool[lol]

edited 10th Mar '14 2:53:33 PM by Paktra

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#20: Mar 10th 2014 at 7:50:29 PM

[up]The only indication of "sinister" in the image is Hitler, and I'm still not sure we should be using real life people - even though it is a parody and/or fictional representation of him

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#21: Mar 10th 2014 at 9:18:41 PM

[up] Adding to that, the 19.2 is the only one where he looks sinister. 19.4 doesn't even come close.

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Paktra Since: Sep, 2013
#22: Mar 11th 2014 at 2:35:18 AM

[up] But Swastika!…

The only reason I even added 19.4 was because it carries such morbid connotations.

I mean you should be able to put it on anything, even a Hitler in Cool Shades and a Tommy Vercetti shirt of all things, and it should look pretty sinister... or at least, Bad Guy-ish

edited 11th Mar '14 2:36:15 AM by Paktra

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#23: Mar 11th 2014 at 3:25:20 AM

How does that even make sense? Swastika is not even a universally recognized symbol of evil and carries no relevance to this trope.

Paktra Since: Sep, 2013
#24: Mar 11th 2014 at 4:11:04 AM

ITS HITLER... with shades on! If I can't make it any clearer than that, forget I ever mentioned it. smile

But no, really I get what you mean, but I didn't say "universal". I understand that the pinwheel sun from which it was derived hass nothing to do with its modern evil, but don't try to argue that with the German government!

My point was, in a politically correct society wouldn't slapping it on something that we wanted to mark as Evil Badness, work?

Alas, I digress... I'm fine for Crowner.

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#25: Mar 11th 2014 at 6:14:39 AM

If that's the idea I think it's a rather bad one. We don't allow Hitler on our Evil pages, so he shouldn't be illustrated in that capacity either.

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