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heliosKAISER The Struggler from Shadow Moses Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Struggler
#1226: Feb 19th 2016 at 5:49:37 PM

Uh, yeah, no.

My fic takes place 10 years after II and ignores 3D so canon from the start is already fucked why even bother?

You gotta start somewhere.
Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#1227: Feb 20th 2016 at 1:12:18 AM

Xehanort basically exists to secretly be behind everything. Might as well.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#1228: Feb 20th 2016 at 5:37:58 AM

Yeah, and whatever crazy shit that happens that isn't Disney related is usually his doing anyways.

heliosKAISER The Struggler from Shadow Moses Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Struggler
#1229: Feb 22nd 2016 at 1:37:14 AM

Does anyone mind when people write Kingdom Hearts darker then the source material? I mean I talked about it with those grimderp snippets from Spacebattles.net and my fanfic having the war is hell thing as a selling point along with making the villains having actual motivations other then 'Bwa ha ha ha!' for doing evil things.

Personally, the important thing to writing darker and edgier fics is to remember the themes from the series and adapt them to the story.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#1230: Feb 22nd 2016 at 5:45:09 AM

Giving the villains actual motivations is, I think, a good thing.

That said, there is a limit to how far you can go before it gets intolerable. Your heroes need to be likable, I think.

What "grimderp snippets" are you talking about?

Oh God! Natural light!
EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#1231: Feb 22nd 2016 at 11:04:18 AM

[up][up]I certainly don't mind, given that I usually end up doing the same thing (though in Brutality, I don't quite go as far as War Is Hell).

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#1232: Feb 22nd 2016 at 3:28:56 PM

Giving the villain(s) a motivation has nothing to do with making something grimdark, it's just good writing.

I am of the opinion that dark fics (for any work, not just KH) are usually not enjoyable, as they are rarely done well.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#1233: Feb 23rd 2016 at 4:40:11 AM

[up]That's more a symptom of the author(s) than it is of the genre, though.

Just because hardly anybody ever manages to do it well doesn't mean that it CAN'T be done well.

edited 23rd Feb '16 4:43:57 AM by EvaUnit01

heliosKAISER The Struggler from Shadow Moses Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Struggler
#1234: Feb 23rd 2016 at 9:10:42 AM

I'm actually considering downplaying the War Is Hell theme so it can be somewhat light hearted.

I'm agreeing with Eva Unit 01 on dark fics.

These snippets: https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/a-grimmer-take-on-kingdom-hearts.151520/

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#1235: Feb 23rd 2016 at 6:16:14 PM

It's decidedly not my thing, I'm afraid. I don't think I'll be of much help.

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heliosKAISER The Struggler from Shadow Moses Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Struggler
#1236: Feb 27th 2016 at 8:10:54 PM

So I have a question: How would you make Kairi more badass? And I mean in general.

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#1237: Feb 27th 2016 at 8:32:02 PM

I don't think she needs any badass upgrades, she just needs to do things. She's got a keyblade, I understand there's some Word of God that she was the toughest person on the islands after Sora and Riku left (and this is a community where the kids seem to amuse themselves mainly by assaulting each other with makeshift weapons), she's got the motivation to go forth and adventure. She's got all the ingredients she needs to be badass, she just doesn't get to show it because she's forever being shoved in the background.

EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#1238: Feb 27th 2016 at 9:32:45 PM

Let her be the player character.

Seriously, that's all you have to do.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#1239: Feb 27th 2016 at 9:34:57 PM

I would assume being a Princess of Heart gives her the ability to use exceptionally powerful light-based magic, she just need to be trained to use it.

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#1240: Feb 27th 2016 at 10:19:19 PM

[up][up]Party member and/or boss fight are also acceptable.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#1241: Feb 28th 2016 at 1:38:37 PM

Why would she be a boss outside of sparring? I doubt anything affiliated with the darkness could possess her.

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heliosKAISER The Struggler from Shadow Moses Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Struggler
#1242: Feb 28th 2016 at 1:41:22 PM

Sparing match/test.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#1243: Feb 28th 2016 at 4:49:33 PM

[up][up] If I were doing Brainwashed and Crazy with her, I'd use mind control that didn't necessarily depend on darkness.

Oh God! Natural light!
heliosKAISER The Struggler from Shadow Moses Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Struggler
#1244: Feb 28th 2016 at 7:34:25 PM

There is the Berserk spell.

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#1245: Feb 28th 2016 at 9:53:02 PM

I was thinking a tournament fight, a la Cloud, Squall, Yuffie, and so forth.

heliosKAISER The Struggler from Shadow Moses Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Struggler
#1246: Feb 29th 2016 at 1:08:50 AM

Would it be meta if instead of getting to fight Sephiroth, my party fights Genesis instead?

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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#1247: Feb 29th 2016 at 5:27:39 AM

No. Meta would be if they fought Sephiroth, and he becomes Dangerously Genre-Savvy and saying how the player (read, player, not character) is a masochist.

heliosKAISER The Struggler from Shadow Moses Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Struggler
#1248: Mar 5th 2016 at 11:14:46 PM

[up] Hmm, I see. I guess I can make the SI and his two OC friends from our world just snark and make fun of his Scrappy status.

Also, should I highlight the difference between Sorcerors and Mages?

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
heliosKAISER The Struggler from Shadow Moses Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Struggler
#1250: Mar 6th 2016 at 1:42:52 AM

Mages study their craft and can only use spells in their respected schools where a Sorceror is a small scale Reality Warper. Just about anyone can be a mage but a Sorceror is born in strange and seemingly circumstances.

edited 6th Mar '16 1:56:37 AM by heliosKAISER

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