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Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1: Feb 8th 2014 at 9:53:11 PM

For actual recursion jokes, we have Shaped Like Itself already. This is just a mathematical defintion of recursion, not a trope. The only index it's on is "Self-demonstrating article", which doesn't even fit.

Every inbound link suggest that it's just being misused for Shaped Like Itself. I say cut.

Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#2: Feb 9th 2014 at 12:02:08 AM

I agree. This serves no useful purpose. Either cut it or make it a redirect to an actual trope like Recursive Reality.

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#3: Feb 9th 2014 at 12:19:04 AM

A Recursion joke isn't necessarily Shaped Like Itself, though.

Don't see much of a value in it, though. Maybe as a Useful Note, but that'd be about it.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#4: Feb 9th 2014 at 1:01:58 AM

The only use I see is as a joke page. For what it's worth, it was already up for a cut vote before.

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#5: Feb 9th 2014 at 1:56:05 AM

[up]And the admin himself said "No harm, and a little funny. Cut request declined."

EDIT: It IS self-demonstrating, as the link at the bottom of the page shows.

Also, the "cutlist denied" request was made before Damian Yerrick added the current description in 2012.

(Previously, it was literally "See Recursion.")

Coming to think about it, the article before Damian Yerrick's edit was even more funny than Damian's edit afterwords.

Therefore, suggesting a revert to this:

See Recursion.

edited 9th Feb '14 2:02:43 AM by KarjamP

troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#6: Feb 9th 2014 at 2:39:17 AM

Seconding the reversion. It was funnier before.

No comment on the cutting.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#7: Feb 9th 2014 at 2:45:57 AM

Well, revert and keep then. I don't think the added text makes the page more interesting. Keep afterwards, because it's somewhat funny and not damaging anything.

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#8: Feb 10th 2014 at 3:47:29 AM

Well, if we are going to keep it because Eddie thinks it is clever, we should at least put it on the Just for Fun index.

troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#9: Feb 10th 2014 at 10:57:42 AM

[up] Good point.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Mar 11th 2014 at 6:54:58 AM

Bumping to ask if we agree with reverting the page and add it to the Just for Fun index.

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#13: Mar 12th 2014 at 4:34:24 AM

[up]If it was, why, at one stage, did Fast Eddie state that the article can be kept because "it's funny"?

Granted, the trope's description at that time was literally "See Recursion". It's only when someone wanted to "flesh it out" with irrelevant information that killed the joke that we are suggesting for a revert to the former description.

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#14: Mar 12th 2014 at 6:07:52 AM

Revert to a Just for Fun page because that's what Eddie wants.

gallium Since: Oct, 2012
#15: Mar 12th 2014 at 7:09:26 PM

Well if it's Just For Fun then the description should be reverted back to the original "see Recursion", maybe with a note explaining not to expand the page any more.

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#16: Mar 12th 2014 at 8:57:35 PM

+1 to flip it back to "See Recursion" and move it to Just for Fun.

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#17: Mar 12th 2014 at 9:49:04 PM

I agree with Willbyr.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#18: Mar 12th 2014 at 11:29:58 PM

Seems like we have agreement here. I'll ask if we want to add a "don't expand" note before reverting, though.

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#19: Mar 13th 2014 at 12:22:22 AM

At the least. Is there a reason to not lock it?

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#20: Mar 13th 2014 at 12:46:42 AM

Eh, I don't think the risk of another revert is that high if we add a note. Making it a moderator note might be desirable, though.

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#22: Mar 13th 2014 at 5:06:34 AM

I've added this to the Just for Fun index.

Should we connect this in some way to Recursive Index Index?

edited 13th Mar '14 5:07:49 AM by Catbert

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#23: Mar 13th 2014 at 5:55:27 AM

[up] It already shows up in the index bar at the bottom of that page, I'd say that's sufficient.

edited 13th Mar '14 5:55:36 AM by Willbyr

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#24: Mar 17th 2014 at 6:27:26 AM

I reverted it to "See Recursion" per the loose consensus. Are we done?

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#25: Mar 17th 2014 at 6:40:59 AM

Yeah, I think so. Locking up.

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