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Deadlock Clock: Mar 9th 2014 at 11:59:00 PM
ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#26: Feb 6th 2014 at 2:39:08 PM

Mary Poppins gets my vote.

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#27: Feb 6th 2014 at 2:48:00 PM

If it wasn't already counted, I give her mine too.

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#28: Feb 6th 2014 at 4:23:28 PM

However, Mary Poppins is not as fragile and as feminine as the trope suggests. She's more archetypal as Magical Nanny.

Similar with Eliza Doolittle. Sure, after her transformation, she's very lady-like, but she's still more of a Spirited Young Lady.

EDIT: I re-read the trope description and it says "She is always upper class". In these cases, Mary Poppins would not be a straight example. Though I think it makes the trope too narrow. I had a PM conversation with Lexii about it a while ago, and we're in agreement that Proper Lady could be also from the middle, upper-middle class (and of course any higher).

edited 6th Feb '14 4:37:52 PM by XFllo

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#29: Feb 6th 2014 at 4:42:40 PM

I don't see anything suggesting that the Proper Lady is fragile. The page does say, "A Proper Lady is a gentle yet strong being," and she has "strength of mind" even if she's not physically strong. A Magical Nanny can be a Proper Lady especially one who is practically perfect in every way.

Paktra Since: Sep, 2013
#30: Feb 6th 2014 at 5:22:57 PM

Wait... does her occupation as a subservient maidservant make any difference in her standing as "proper"?

xfllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#31: Feb 6th 2014 at 5:33:24 PM

Well, we might change that one sentence about social class from the description. As I said, I personally think it's not accurate.

I saw Mary Poppins — just the movie musical with Julie Andrews .— and she simply doesn't strike me as very close to the description (being a mother, sacrificing herself for her family, wearing a parasol and a pretty purple dress).

It might be just me though. smile

edited 6th Feb '14 5:33:58 PM by xfllo

lexii from London Since: Jul, 2009
#32: Feb 13th 2014 at 3:13:32 AM

Hi all, I'd say a good example would be Sally Ann Howes (as Truly Scrumptious in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang) — she's elegant, lady-like, beautiful (complete with Parasol of Prettiness), dignified (if a little chilly to begin with) and has the archetypal look, good breeding and strong moral sense. Have a peep at some images of her on google in the movie. She's also about the right age too, I'd suggest, when she appears in Chitty. I agree with Fllo on Mary Poppins - she's far too wacky for this trope. Arguably, she's not even human! And Eliza Doolittle is a construct — she's not this trope underneath, she's just aping the mannerisms/look to fulfil a bet. So I'm not sure about her either — there's something about the deceptiveness (although not her fault) of her character that doesn't sit with Proper Lady

edited 13th Feb '14 3:33:48 AM by lexii

Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#33: Feb 13th 2014 at 5:12:49 AM

Mary Poppins is a servant, not a "Lady".

I know, that's a very Victorian mindset, but this is after all supposed to a be a Victorian trope.

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#35: Mar 6th 2014 at 12:13:25 PM

I'd be okay with the OP.

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#38: Mar 7th 2014 at 4:11:13 AM

The OP is good enough for me.

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#39: Mar 7th 2014 at 7:02:06 PM

I am also fine with the OP.

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#40: Mar 8th 2014 at 5:00:16 AM

I'm responsible for OP and I still like it.

However, I really like lexii's idea of having Truly Scrumptious from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. I was googling some pics, but I found nothing suitable. It would need new screen grabs.

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#41: Mar 11th 2014 at 4:09:02 AM

The clock's up and we're at the minimum consensus for the OP, so it's up and the tag is adjusted. Locking up.

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