CW's Flash

Zoom is Bart Allen, going through some Adaptational Villainy.

Interestingly, Garrick's line about Zoom could imply that he might not even be from Jay's world. ATM I still think he is from Earth 2 and that he's Clariss, but the writers are definitely leaving themselves open for something odd there if they choose to go that route.

Also, arguably pretty much every villain from Earth 2 Barry faces could be an Anti-Villain thanks to how they're introduced.

Or heroes: Good Dr. Light appears to be one of the people from Earth 2 as well, if her placement in the trailer is any indication.

It would be cool to see some of the Earth 2 villains just be straight up villains, some more sympathetic, some who actually want to live in the new universe instead of the old one

Agreed. Some veriaty.

If I were Zoom and I were dumping villains in another universe to kill Flash, I would pick the ones most likely to actually want to. Tragic antivillains need not apply. Just seems like it would be less hassle that way.

Of course, that assumes he has a choice in who he gets. If he's just grabbing everyone who falls into temporal limbo or wherever, then he won't have that luxury. Somehow I doubt he's trawling the multiverse for baddies, abducting them straight from their home universes and dumping them on Barry.

For all we know, he might be dumping some of the people who are in his way there and then tells them if they get rid of Barry, he'll let them back.

Wouldn't work on a lantern-jawed champion of justice, but worked on Edge.

edited 12th Oct '15 3:39:09 PM by Anteres

If Zoom was able to cherry pick who got thrown through the singularity, that would be a bit of a stretch of belief. So I figure he's dangling the ability to return home to a lot of them. Plus diversity is the spice of life. Having the same villain motive week after week would be way tedious.

If Zoom was able to cherry pick who got thrown through the singularity, that would be a bit of a stretch of belief.

I don't think anyone was thrown into the singularity (aside from Firestorm maybe). I think the singularity created a portal and Zoom was able to find and exploit that portal, throwing people in and demanding that they kill the Flash.

It would be a stretch, and I hope that we don't just have that as a motive, but so far it seems like going home—home as Eobard described it in ep. 14, "where we feel safe, where we feel loved"— and the people who love us, getting back to them—seems to be The theme of Flash so far. Barry wants to reunite his family. Cisco wanted the same, with Ronnie and Caitlin, basically everything to do with Firestorm, Eobard's whole plan, and now this... so it's very fitting. still, I'd be very unhappy if everyone we face in this season except the villains from season 1 and Zoom are only villains to get home in the same manner. it'd get old.

That would still stretch belief if Zoom was able to think of that plan, figure out who would be best to send through, and throw them through, in the span of time the portal was open.

That would still stretch belief if Zoom was able to think of that plan, figure out who would be best to send through, and throw them through, in the span of time the portal was open.

Once again, the singularity is not the portal. The singularity opened a portal. The portal itself is probably still open somewhere that only Zoom knows.

Zoom doesn't really need a portal if he is fast enough he could vibrate at a frequency of another world and travel that way.

So far, nobody has done that yet. The Flash has traveled back in time, but nobody has traveled to parallel Earths. Even in the trailers, Jay mentions a portal.

I wouldn't be surprised if they made that something Zoom (and eventually Barry) could do, though. His transdimensional vibrating became a pretty big thing for him in a lot of the comics and games, if I'm recalling correctly.

(fun fact: I went through and counted, for reasons. in the 24 released episodes, the word " Home" is used seventy two times.)

Sooo....

Why does Zoom want to kill Barry again?

And why not just do it himself? He's probably on the same level as Wellsobard, who if you recall, was basically outdoing Barry while needed a machine to actually get his own speed back.

Zoom is fully powered I'm assuming, so why not just splatter Barry across the ground, turn the heroic red streak into a bloody red streak, call it a day, and get himself some Booze?

If the clips we got this weekend are to be believed, Zoom wants to eliminate all alternate speedsters from the multiverse so as to be the only one left in existence. Maybe it's like that movie where getting rid of all the other alternate versions makes the surviving ones stronger.

As for why he's not directly attacking, we might get an answer for that today.

He's an alternate Barry and doesn't want to risk a direct confrontation until he knows its safe.

That is like on Arrow with the phrase "are you okay?" they used it in almost every episode from the beginning of the series throughout season 3.

I don't think it was mentioned yet in season 4.

@Known Unknown reminds me of the main villain's motivation from Jet Li's The One.

Goddamn, Zoom looks like the Black Flash.

I like Barry being Properly Paranoid about Jay.

Zoom is the sandman right?