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fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#51: Mar 22nd 2014 at 7:53:27 AM

[up] Huh. On one hand the anime-original stuff is eh, on the other hand I don't like time-reversal shenanigans.

HanabiraKage Since: Oct, 2011
#52: Mar 22nd 2014 at 8:10:10 AM

[up] Would you rather the three girls get crushed to death, or at the very least get heavily injured? All the time reversal did was save them. I know they were being total jerks, but still. Besides, considering that Amaterasu is pretty much head goddess in this story, it'd have been stranger if she didn't step in to reverse the damage caused by Inari's powers running amok.

I don't quite like what they did for the anime. It wasn't absolutely terrible, but they dragged it out too long and Amaterasu was pretty much passive the whole way. She's in charge, so you'd think she'd take matters into her own hands when things got out of hand.

edited 22nd Mar '14 8:11:42 AM by HanabiraKage

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#53: Mar 22nd 2014 at 8:33:20 AM

[up] I would rather there be no crushing to begin with. Reversing time will always be one of the worst kinds of copout for me.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#54: Mar 22nd 2014 at 8:37:08 AM

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It did serve a purpose in the manga however — to show that Inari was simply not the right person, at that point in time, to be in possession of the first rank powers that Uka has. She has literally no control over them, and with her teenage emotions, was a possible danger to everyone around her.

Also the implication in the manga was that, had Amaterasu not stepped in, Inari would have also been one of the unfortunate and very dead girls from that eruption of power.

edited 22nd Mar '14 8:39:16 AM by MyssaRei

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#55: Mar 22nd 2014 at 8:58:41 AM

[up] Could have done those without time reversal. <shrug> Just don't like it as a plot device.

kiukiuclk from 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693 Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: My TiMER is ticking
#56: Mar 22nd 2014 at 9:30:04 AM

[up][up] Eh. I'm ok with the anime version. Might be better.

The problem with that lesson is, in the anime at least.....the gods and goddesses are really any more mature than Inari is. So feels like it would fall flat to me at least. If want to say she can't control them bc she's a human rather than god...ok. But saying it comes down to maturity doesn't work well.

The whole "power drain thing" never made any sense anyway. If Uka's powers are migrating to Inari bc she is using them....shouldn't Uka using them pull them back then? It felt like a bit of an artificial construct to create drama. (Same with her power eruptions. Sometimes it happens when she gets emotional, sometimes it doesn't).

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#57: Mar 22nd 2014 at 3:46:33 PM

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Made more sense in the manga — while Uka was a first-rank god as the daughter of Susano'o, she was literally doing nothing with her powers, just sitting on them in an annoyed huff because she disagreed with how her relatives tried to control her life.

Inari, on the other hand, has been using her powers again and again and again, and the point where she managed to shapeshift into a deity's form (Uka herself during the marriage interview) was the point where it was supposed to click that, in using Uka's powers Inari was replacing Uka (despite it not being her actual intent).

edited 22nd Mar '14 3:47:21 PM by MyssaRei

kiukiuclk from 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693 Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: My TiMER is ticking
#58: Mar 22nd 2014 at 4:40:57 PM

[up] Wouldn't the entire problem have been fixed by Uka shapeshifting a few times them? Doesn't seem to hard.

[down] I didn't read the manga (Didn't want to while it was airing).

I mean, once she realizes what the problem is, that seems like it would be simple to solve. She uses her powers every once in a while to maintain balance, gets to be friends with Inari, everyone is happy. She doesn't seem that lazy.

edited 22nd Mar '14 5:20:07 PM by kiukiuclk

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#59: Mar 22nd 2014 at 5:09:10 PM

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I thought you read the manga? Nowhere in it does Uka exercise her powers except the chapter where she gives Inari the ability to change form. She simply doesn't want to.

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#60: Mar 22nd 2014 at 9:30:48 PM

[up] Then she really should use her powers every once in a while.

Sackett Since: Jan, 2001
#61: Mar 22nd 2014 at 10:06:55 PM

Even in the manga I don't think it was ever implied that Uka not using her powers was a problem, nor that Uka using her powers would stop her from fading away.

I thought it worked more like this:

Uka not using her powers is a good thing, and part of her greater discipline. Inrai lacks that discipline and therefor cannot control herself to prevent involuntary use of the power - which is a major problem.

That's is it's own problem. Then there is the second issue of Inrai absorbing Uka. While connected to the first problem because Inari using more and more power is causing this absorption to occur Inari absorbing Uka is it's own issue. This one is more unclear in cause.

The main theory is that it's just Inari using more and more power and that Uka's power cannot support both Uka's existence and the increased uses Inari is putting it to. This theory maintains that if Inari could control herself and limit her power use to short transformations into other humans it would not be an issue.

My supplemental theory is that while the above is the mechanism, there is the additional factor that Inari likes having the power, while Uka doesn't. Uka actually wants to be human. Thus the more Inari uses the power, the more the power wants to remain with Inari instead of supporting Uka. Not because Inari uses it more, but because Inari wants it more.

Thus the problem is not that Uka doesn't use the power, but that she doesn't want it. Just using the power more often will not solve the problem.

edited 22nd Mar '14 10:09:00 PM by Sackett

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#62: Mar 22nd 2014 at 10:18:54 PM

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Bravo, said it way better than I ever could. ^^;

In fact, the anime skips out on the chapters where Inari is actually dragged to Takagamahara because of her control issues, for "training" ala Kamichu.

edited 22nd Mar '14 10:23:00 PM by MyssaRei

kiukiuclk from 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693 Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: My TiMER is ticking
#63: Mar 22nd 2014 at 10:59:16 PM

[up][up] That makes some sense. Which would make the problem Uka accpting her powers. Which would be interesting, but it's unclear what use Uka had for them.

Well, the amount of time she's transformed shouldn't be a problem. It only uses power when you change.

Actually, if it was sustained, that would explain it. That would mean Inari is technically using the power all the time, because she naturally looks like Sumizome now.

If that was it and Uka can only grant 1 wish per person, couldn't she just have Touka wish her back?

edited 22nd Mar '14 11:01:44 PM by kiukiuclk

HanabiraKage Since: Oct, 2011
#64: Mar 23rd 2014 at 2:22:44 AM

[up][up] Wasn't the training arc after Inari returns Uka's powers and somehow winds up developing the exact same powers?

Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#65: Mar 27th 2014 at 7:16:20 PM

Oh man, I only found this thread after discovering that the latest episode of the series was the last. What the heck, I'll still post this here.

I want to make it clear that I do *NOT* regularly watch Shojo anime -or romantic anime, period- but I found something about Inari Kon Kon really appealing. Maybe it was because it was at first a deconstruction of the genre, but then fully embraced it? Or was it because the characters felt so real (especially the shy teenagers) other than the wacky ones like Uka's brother? (His incestuous crush was the only part I didn't like, but fortunately he was played for laughs.)

So, does the manga have a sequel or anything? Because I really would like to see more of this stuff.

HanabiraKage Since: Oct, 2011
#66: Mar 27th 2014 at 9:26:14 PM

[up] The anime's ending was completely original. I suggest you read the manga from the beginning.

Styryder Pleased to DINE you! from Indonesia Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Pleased to DINE you!
#67: Apr 4th 2014 at 5:49:07 AM

[up][up]It's listed as Seinen in Mangahere and Batoto.

So this thread was only for anime?

Wait...What?
HanabiraKage Since: Oct, 2011
#68: Apr 4th 2014 at 7:04:23 AM

[up] Well, the title doesn't really specify any mediums, and now that the anime has ended (and in a manner that leaves no room for a second season at that), we can use this as a manga discussion thread.

Well, doesn't really seem to have a lot of readers on here though.

Diamite Rainy Echoes Since: Jul, 2013
Rainy Echoes
#69: Apr 4th 2014 at 3:12:29 PM

So I finally found the time and marathoned the anime. Why did I watch it? After watching Gingitsune last season, it was a nice chance to see Gintaro's boss.tongue

It was pretty nice. Some questions for you manga readers...

In the opening, Kon could transform into a humanoid form. But it never happened in the anime. So I'm guessing it happened in the manga.

Inari can't see Uka anymore. But Touka still can, right? Also, how is he able to see Uka without divine powers(or should I say, without The Sighttongue)?

Firechick12012 Since: Nov, 2012
#70: Apr 4th 2014 at 3:19:03 PM

I want to watch this, but I have a random question about the anime: it doesn't have any ecchi, is it? And by ecchi I mean random scenes where someone's boobs get fondled for no reason.

HanabiraKage Since: Oct, 2011
#71: Apr 4th 2014 at 5:59:43 PM

[up] Nope.

[up][up] Kon first transformed in an omake chapter, then did so again much later in the main story. And yes, Touka naturally has the sight since he's the first-born, so he can still see her.

Styryder Pleased to DINE you! from Indonesia Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Pleased to DINE you!
#72: Apr 5th 2014 at 7:25:00 AM

[up][up]The closest you get with "fondling" would be from Uka's brother; To elaborate: attempted fondling which always get interrupted, violently and messily. Other than that nothing Ecchi-ish, its plain interactions between the main couple and supporting ones.

As for recent chapter: oohh man, Touka's Chunibyou-ness is a terminal case...there's no way to help him anymore. [lol]

edited 5th Apr '14 7:39:53 AM by Styryder

Wait...What?
MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#73: Apr 5th 2014 at 6:40:53 PM

LOL Touka's chuuni aside, we got more developments with regards to Inari's god powers too. So people have been saying is that Inari not being visible anymore goes back to Uka rejecting her own powers this time, and without a familar conduit, guess where all that divinity is going to?

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#74: Apr 7th 2014 at 9:46:46 AM

Previously I decided to leave this anime for a rainy day. Well, I like rainy days, but anyway. Good anime.

And I'm kinda glad I put it off and didn't read this thread while watching. Too much whining about stuff that isn't as explicit as in the manga, or isn't the manga, or whatever. It holds up on its own.

Probably going to read the manga. Probably won't post more here.

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#75: Oct 27th 2015 at 4:02:17 AM

Just bringing this up, but the manga ended a few months back, but to put it simply, the whole "Inari turning into a Goddess, Uka turning Human" subplot got solved by Toka taking Inari's powers and becoming a God in her place. Talk about a convenient solution to TWO subplots.

Which of course leads to this, and this, then this.

There's a whole lot that was left undeveloped overall, some subplots dropped for convenience (did Sumizome's plot really go anywhere?), and Inari seemingly edged out by her own brother out of all things. Yikes.

edited 27th Oct '15 4:05:08 AM by MyssaRei


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