New subpage for collecting a work's Zero Context Examples.

Here's how this would work: each work gets a new "Zero Context Examples" subpage, and whenever you find a ZCE, you add it to its work's ZCE subpage so that people who are familiar with the work can go and fix it. For example:

You are just looking at the page for Example Trope X and see an example that just says "Work Y... just Work Y."

After commenting out that example, you'd go to the page "ZeroContextExamples.Work Y" and add Example Trope X to the list, signaling that this work has ZCE(s) on that trope's page.

Then, another troper who has seen Work Y and knows how Example Trope X applies to it will be able to go and add more information. After adding more information, the troper will remove Example Trope X from the list since it is no longer a ZCE.

I don't see that as really useful. Commenting out ZCE's on a work's page directly is a much better solution because a troper looking to see if the trope is already listed will find it immediately rather than having to search a subpage.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

I think you misunderstood my post. The Zero Context Examples subpage would be for ZC Es on trope pages, not work pages. When a ZCE is commented out on a trope page, it becomes hard for people to find it. If this is implemented, however, it would be easy to see all (well... not quite all, since it would not have the ZC Es from before this was implemented and some from tropers who don't know about the subpage) trope pages where a work is listed as a ZCE.

Hmm, okay. I'm still not sure that it would be an improvement, given the difficulty of getting users to look at the ZCE subpage for an example rather than in the source. It's six of one, a half-dozen of the other.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

I am not sure if creating pages specifically for bad entries on a subject improves the appearance of the wiki.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

sounds like more work for both people who can add context and those who hunt ZCE.

commented entries work better since if someone's adding an example and spotting the ZCE could simply go over it and add context then be done with it.

Is dast der Zerstorer? Odar die Schopfer?

Maybe making some kind of "hide from editors, show to logged in tropers" code for problem entries could help, though.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Couldn't we just make a page in Needs Wiki Magic Love specifically for work pages with Zero Context Examples?

That sounds like a far better idea. I'm still not sure it's a good idea, but definitely better than making subpages for ZCE's.

Eh, people editing pages are probably scrolling directly to the part of the code where they'd be adding their example. Perhaps we could add some code that says "show only to logged-in tropers" and gives it a differently-colored bullet like the YMMV bullet. Or alternately, a code that has the same effect as commenting-out but adds some text to the top of the edit window saying "While you're here, we'd love it if you could add context to the following Zero Context Examples:"

If it's technically feasible that might work really well; the coloured YMMV bullets certainly seem to help in cleaning up work pages (can edit pages display two banners at once?) . The only nitpicks I can see are 1) new tropers will still see ZCE's and think it's okay to add them, though the bullets might give them pause and 2) some pages are nothing but ZCE's and could turn fairly nightmarish. Of course, one can argue that pages with no examples at all are little better.