YuGiOh Troper Format Thread

Could those who haven't voted on Glow-Up Bulb please make up their minds so we can move on?

Sangan: easily triggered, search practically anything, reusable. But you still have to use what you get... I'm not sure at the moment.

Sinister Serpent: Reusable discard fodder. Banned.
On a side note, once again I agree that Mermails need a hit if everything that has to do with water getting limited revolves around them. However, I don't know what to hit, since I don't care to look at them.

Substitoad: Super easy milling, even at 1. Banned for now.

Tribe Infecting Virus: What Xion said. Even against a mixed deck, it's still "discard to destroy at least one monster each turn". It's like a reusable lightning vortex. Heck, you can even use it more than once per turn. I know it would benefit my Cold Control (Ice Barrier) Deck, but... Banned without testing.

Victory Dragon: Wholly irrelevant to troper testing. If you don't have the good sense to scoop, you deserve to lose. More importantly, don't the Match Winners say they aren't tournament legal on them anyway? Verdict: who gives a damn?

Victory Dragon is a perfectly legal print. All the others are tournament winner prizes with "This card cannot be used in a Duel" limitation text.

edited 29th Dec '13 4:58:44 PM by Plumbum

Which just makes me wonder what the hell the point even is for them.

Collectors, of course.

They were all dumb design and there was honestly no point in creating Victory Dragon in the first place. At least it was tested properly before being banned. The fact it was able to win a Match was what got the rest made illegal. It was deemed clearly too powerful in the end. It only is truly worthless in a non-Match format.

@Tropay: Dark Worlds cannot get their effect with Tribe(because they can't get their effect if discarded by a cost. Only Fabled and Mermails can. because their discard requirements can be a cost or effect). Just to clarify.

edited 29th Dec '13 6:50:40 PM by Irene

Updated the second post to include what is currently being tested, found here.

As for the current set...

• Sangan is immediate access to far too many cards that can make or break a deck. Even if the detach no longer triggers it, it is immediately searched out by Tour Guide (which is at 3 now) and can be foddered off there without having to make an Xyz. Not to mention it is easily abused for its effect as it matters not how it ends up in the Grave as long as it was sent there from the field. Banned without testing.
• Sinister Serpent is a card I like to joke about with banlists but I don't see coming back. Way too many ways to search it and abuse it. Banned without testing.
• Substitoad was originally banned due to how easy it was to OTK using it with Super Rejuv + DNA Surgery + any other Frog so that you could grab Exodia. However, that isn't to say that it isn't insanely useful without Super Rejuv to Dragon Draw off of and can boost the speed of Frognarch decks to a ridiculous degree. Banned without testing.
• Tribe-Infecting Virus is, as Wander said, a reusable Lightning Vortex that can happen as many times you want per turn. That's ridiculous. Banned without testing.
• Victory Dragon is a Match Winner. None of the other Match Winners are allowed in a Duel. 1 + 1 = Banned without testing.

This thread is losing momentum fast. Also, we still never settled on Glow-Up Bulb.

Can't really say much else about Bulb if we're at an impasse.

The people who haven't voted can, though.

I'd like if that set of votes got finished too.

Also, you can ignore all of my votes. I'm dropping out of this. I do not find the currently proposed list something I could honestly enjoy. And I'll leave it at that.

Sorry.

Alright then, assuming the other 9 people are still here, 5 votes is still needed on things for a majority.

I'd have to question why, considering we're nowhere near done, haven't tested yet, and your votes wound up being alongside the majority more often than not. Is this about Rescue Cat? Do you just not care about the format anymore? Do other people not care too, because if a lot of people don't care anymore there's little sense in continuing.

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edited 6th Jan '14 2:00:22 PM by NickTheSwing

No.

Definitely not. This isn't a wishlist thread.

>Ban Gates
>Ban Grapha

Bit butthurt about Dick Worlds there? Side D.D. Crow, problen solved.

>Limit Lyla
>Limit Ryko
>Limit Raiden

Or should we just call this "Decks and cards that Nick doesn't like"?

Also, sly edit there Nick, but we all saw your wishlist.

edited 6th Jan '14 2:00:58 PM by Plumbum

Well, it is called the "Troper Format thread". I thought it was somewhere people can go to post their ideal formats.

They told me it was apparently not the right thread to post it, so I removed it. It was not a sly edit for the reason you think.

And I am glad everyone saw it, so that it can be out there.

edited 6th Jan '14 2:05:19 PM by NickTheSwing

It's a collective format we're working on that will hopefully be tested and used by us if we ever get around to finishing it. You're welcome to take part and vote, but recall that we're trying to be objective.

M Aybe we should just move on to the next set and come back to this at the end?

If we kick the can down down the road again, we're never going to get much done.

If we just let things sit still for days on end, we're going to get even less done.

Hmm. Limit Glow for the moment, see if it's still overpowered at one.

Oh yeah almost forgot about this.

So I won't be able to act as overseer anymore because I'm busy. So whoever wants to step up can if they wish.

I suppose I could, once I note down the state of the cards voted so far.

Honestly an easier and funner way to do this would be to have a tournament and develop a banlist from there.

I don't think that'd be easier at all. That'd just serve to hit stuff we don't like, not test stuff that's both banned and not banned. We'd still need to test each card more than once too.

I would of course like a tournament, but that really doesn't prove anything in these contexts.

So this is dead then?