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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
DiamondWeapon Since: Jan, 2001
#102: Dec 9th 2013 at 2:32:45 AM

About the names, Mac Guffin Hostage is perhaps a bit too close to Hostage for MacGuffin. And Animate Mac Guffin doesn't say "transformed into human" to me, more like Animate Inanimate Object.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
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#104: Dec 10th 2013 at 9:12:15 PM

[up] i suggest you put those in the YKTTW (starting with Animate Mac Guffin, which implies a macguffin that moves, or is alive but not organic, by the way.). i don't think you'll get a lot of help here.

btw, i think Galatea Macguffin works. remember Galatea? the one Aphrodite gave life to because someone loved his statue so much?

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#105: Dec 10th 2013 at 9:52:02 PM

To quote my own post at the end of the last page:

Also, we run new tropes through TRS all the time in situations like this, when we decide to split off subtropes or otherwise untangle a rat's nest. Sending them to YKTTW will just result in them getting lost and forgotten; we need to do it here. The only ambiguous part here is the names.

We pretty much just need a name for Animate Mac Guffin, and to sort the examples. That's a TRS issue, not a YKTTW one.

Anyway, Galatea's myth (in addition to being one of the more obscure myths) has a number of implications to it that we don't want. Once we have a few alternatives, we can run a crowner and put it on there, but I don't expect it to do well.

ShanghaiSlave Giver of Lame Names from YKTTW Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
#106: Dec 13th 2013 at 3:44:59 PM

[up] ah, sorry i didn't know that. and good point.

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#109: Dec 16th 2013 at 8:14:52 PM

Voted down all of the names suggesting this was a trope for female characters, because I've never understood that to be part of the description.

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#110: Dec 16th 2013 at 11:02:31 PM

Same. Let's not shoehorn gender restrictions where they don't exist.

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#111: Dec 17th 2013 at 11:46:02 PM

Upvoted Mac Guffin To Person. Not very snappy, but it gets the meaning across.

troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#112: Dec 20th 2013 at 1:20:49 PM

MacGuffin To Person is somewhat harder to work into a sentence, though.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
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#113: Dec 26th 2013 at 7:24:39 AM

"MacGuffin To Person" sounds like a McGuffin is being given to a person (or a girl); that doesn't work as a name.

Galataea is... a brand of ice cream, I think? How is that related to the trope?

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#114: Dec 26th 2013 at 10:49:30 AM

So what definition are we naming again?

edited 26th Dec '13 10:49:39 AM by Stratadrake

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#115: Dec 26th 2013 at 12:23:10 PM

The one where a MacGuffin object is transformed into a person.

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#116: Dec 26th 2013 at 5:35:47 PM

Ooh. In which case only Animated Mac Guffin gets my vote because I see "animate" used as an adjective means a pre-existing or inherent quality of something and not something that actively happened to it.

Of course, Animated Mac Guffin has its problems too because we're not talking about animation vs. live action. So nothing gets a good vote from me then.

edited 26th Dec '13 5:37:45 PM by Stratadrake

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#117: Dec 26th 2013 at 6:00:30 PM

Nothing's in the green, then. Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#118: Dec 27th 2013 at 10:49:29 AM

Nothing comes to mind, and that's a problem. I'd like to avoid a repeat of 'If You Know What I Mean' where the final name isn't a good name but instead was just less bad than the given alternatives.

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#119: Dec 27th 2013 at 2:35:17 PM

How's MacGuffin Anthropomorphosis? I believe that's the technical term.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#120: Dec 27th 2013 at 3:01:24 PM

I'm not sure that's quite the right word. I added Mac Guffin Anthropomorphous to the crowner, but that's not right, and now it won't let me change it for some reason.

Anyway, I think that's the right track, if not quite the right word.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#121: Dec 27th 2013 at 3:33:56 PM

Anthropomorphized Mac Guffin? Is that right? Or maybe Anthropomorphic Mac Guffin?

edited 27th Dec '13 3:34:35 PM by Discar

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#122: Dec 27th 2013 at 4:29:32 PM

The noun form is 'anthropomorphism', however all variations of the term suffer the connotation of being an inherent, passive quality (most obvious example: anthropomorphic animals and Furry Fandom) and not something that actively happened to it.

edited 27th Dec '13 4:30:33 PM by Stratadrake

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#123: Dec 29th 2013 at 9:47:32 AM

It's in the dictionary, apparently. [1] *shrug*

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
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