Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Wait, wouldn't they still have the yellow sun, though? Zod wasn't terraforming the sun, just the earth, right?

No, your reason is that you want to recreate your society as it existed when you last saw it.

And actually, a population where everybody is superstrong is a nightmare for someone with a superiority complex like Zod's. How do you maintain your power, and your authority, when every single person in the street is a Physical God? Your so-called superior genes and purer bloodline? Don't matter in the slightest when everybody can do what you do.

edited 20th Apr '15 12:50:56 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

They establish in the movie that the earth's lower gravity and atmosphere are a big part of what give the Kryptonians their superpowers. Not just the yellow sun.

Guess what? None of those were reasons that Zod gave in the movie! The reason he gave was that adjusting would be painful. That's it. That's the character's reason for his action. The military leader is just too much of a pussy to take the atmosphere that's objectively better for him.

All this to contrive the conflict of "screaming crazy person tries to destroy the earth with a giant space laser," which is probably the least interesting conflict you could go for in a Superman story.

edited 20th Apr '15 12:58:50 PM by Pannic

Ah, Honest Trailers.

I happen to find Ambar's reason for Zod not wanting his powers better than the reason Zod gave in the film.

This I don't have a problem with.

edited 20th Apr '15 1:05:37 PM by VeryMelon

"All this to contrive the conflict of "screaming crazy person tries to destroy the earth with a giant space laser," which is probably the least interesting conflict you could go for in a Superman story."

That's the conflict in a whole lot of Superman stories actually, and certainly in most of the ones involving Zod. Since his reintroduction in Last Son his goal has consistently been Take Over the World, Kill All Humans, rebuild Krypton on Earth's ashes.

Detailed look at DC's Trinity Costumes from Batman v Superman.◊

edited 20th Apr '15 3:35:42 PM by Halberdier17

They all look nice.

Zod and his motivation were one of the few things I didn't dislike about Mo S (that isn't to say I was in love with the character any, though). It made sense and there was actually a sense of conflict over killing Jor-El and facing his son and all. The fact that everyone he cared about was killed (and that it was kind of his fault) made him more sympathetic than Supes in the last few minutes of the battle. He was a pretty good Tragic Villain for a film that otherwise had weak characters.

Though I chalk a lot of that up to subtle acting moments from the incredible facial acting of Michael Shannon. If nothing else, the actors communicate more about their characters with facial dialogue than spoken dialogue in the movie. Casting wise I love what DC is doing right now, and I trust these actors with everything I've got.

I just don't trust these writers.

They have a different writer this time around. Sure Goyer is still have a writing credit but he is just writing the story which is his strength. Chris Terrio is handling the dialogue so that part should be fine.

Here is a description of the Imax footage.

edited 20th Apr '15 4:16:31 PM by Halberdier17

"screaming crazy person tries to destroy the earth with a giant space laser," which is probably the least interesting conflict you could go for in a Superman story.

Nah, I think 'gigantic rocky brute goes on animalistic rampage just because he's a savage berserker, punches Superman to death' has it beaten to it.

Mm. Perhaps.

I should also point out that "screaming crazy person tries to destroy earth with a giant space laser" was also the plot of the 2009 Star Trek reboot

Star Trek '09 wasn't trying to be gritty and important, though, just a fun adventure. It had Simon Pegg getting caught inside a suction tube and arguing with a little green guy.

edited 20th Apr '15 7:18:57 PM by Tuckerscreator

So who here has seen Screen Junkies' parody of the teaser?

It was posted on the previous page.

I'm meh on it. It feels like they phoned it in for obvious fandom jokes. C'mon, they can do better than that.

edited 20th Apr '15 10:26:50 PM by Pannic

To be fair, it was just a teaser. They only had so much to work with

Honest Trailers can be hysterical, but that was about as click-baity as you can get. It was parroting fan reactions more than actually spoofing the contents of the trailer. Since their premise is about repurposing movies and exposing their flaws, doing an Honest Trailer for a trailer doesn't work. The How It Should Have Ended for the SDCC trailer, on the other hand, was awesome because they've long established the Super Cafe series. In fact, it holds up still.

As for how dark the trailer seems to be, if you were to judge Iron Man 3 based it's trailer, it looks even more bleak and hopeless.

edited 20th Apr '15 10:49:29 PM by KJMackley

Eh, they're making fun of the fan rivalry, I got a kick out of it.

I did like that it wasn't straight DC bashing, the "Marvel" "DC" chanting before the statue is reveal was funny. I just find Honest Trailers to sometimes be mean-spirited while HISHE is always good-natured.

If Batman is fighting Superman to test the hypothesis that Supes really is just an immigrant/refugee that wants to help others versus a dangerous alien that's willing to kill humans, would the null hypothesis be to end up dead or severely injured?

The fight scene shown in the trailers is never in the film at all and was shot only to hype up the movie.

The fight scene is a ruse to draw out the Big Bad.

The non-fight scenes were just filmed for the trailer. The actual film is just two hours of Batman and Superman punching each other. With Wonder Woman and Aquaman showing up just long enough to get in a few punches themselves.

Batman and Superman are doing it for the benefit of a children's hospital.

Detailed look at the Batmobile.