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Not Tropeworthy (new crowner 8/2/13): Completed Fic get usage counts

 201 shoboni, Sun, 11th Aug '13 1:50:08 PM from Iowa, USA
I say we go by what's easier, and two index is better than having three due to some arbitrary technicality. Length is length regardless of how chopped up it is. I say it should go this way:

One-Shot: Any fic below a certain word count that's posted all at once.

Completed Fic: Any fic that's above or a certain word count or posted over time.
"It's not that simple. We are all both, good and evil, we have rage and compassion, we have love and hate...murder and forgiveness."
 202 Rethkir, Sun, 11th Aug '13 2:24:10 PM from the gap between dimensions Relationship Status: Singularity
Okay. I won't worry about going back through those. I thought I saw one that was only three chapters, but it was just incomplete. I'll bring up an example of one if I see it.

 203 Rethkir, Sun, 11th Aug '13 2:40:43 PM from the gap between dimensions Relationship Status: Singularity
Okay, here is an example of a short fic with multiple chapters released all at once: Out In The Cold. There are four chapters, 23, 500 words, and posted all at once. Is that a One-Shot?

Oh, and Pattycakes is actually a two-parter.

I'm making a note if a fanfic has multiple chapters.

edited 11th Aug '13 3:02:41 PM by Rethkir

 204 shoboni, Sun, 11th Aug '13 2:49:25 PM from Iowa, USA
I'd say it's a one-shot.

On Pattycakes, I'd almost say that's two separate works that go back to back, like the Karate Kid parts 1&II told one continuous story. So I 'd about say it's two One-Shots that go back-to-back.

edited 11th Aug '13 2:50:26 PM by shoboni

"It's not that simple. We are all both, good and evil, we have rage and compassion, we have love and hate...murder and forgiveness."
shoboni, we're not here to decide on a definition of the term One Shot. If it's used as "one-chapter fanfic, " then that's what we need to treat it as, not come up with arbitrary wordcount limits.

edited 11th Aug '13 3:33:39 PM by Discar

 206 shoboni, Sun, 11th Aug '13 3:34:56 PM from Iowa, USA
I'm just trying to make things easier by not throwing more subtropes into the mess when they're not needed. God only knows the problems we've had on TRS due to tropes with just very small, fine print differences(like Expy and it's related tropes)

edited 11th Aug '13 3:41:28 PM by shoboni

"It's not that simple. We are all both, good and evil, we have rage and compassion, we have love and hate...murder and forgiveness."
Dragon Writer
I agree that when the term is pre-existing we absolutely need to sync up with how it's used.

I'd say that a one-shot is any fic that was written "in one shot" — whether or not it contains official chapter breaks is technically irrelevant to this, but the important part is it was composed all at once.

Of course, it's also true that writers may commingle "chapter" with "writing session", so most one-shots are by definition "one chapter"....

edited 14th Aug '13 8:32:23 AM by Stratadrake

 208 shoboni, Wed, 14th Aug '13 9:08:06 AM from Iowa, USA
I'm just worried about possible problems in the future if we two tropes that close.
"It's not that simple. We are all both, good and evil, we have rage and compassion, we have love and hate...murder and forgiveness."
 209 Rethkir, Wed, 14th Aug '13 9:58:18 AM from the gap between dimensions Relationship Status: Singularity
In the meantime, I'm indicating if a fic has multiple parts, but would otherwise be a one-shot in YKTTW.

 210 shoboni, Wed, 14th Aug '13 6:31:22 PM from Iowa, USA
If it was uploaded in chunks it's a completed fic.
"It's not that simple. We are all both, good and evil, we have rage and compassion, we have love and hate...murder and forgiveness."
 211 Septimus Heap, Sun, 15th Sep '13 1:22:10 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
So, has there been any progress here?

 212 shoboni, Sun, 15th Sep '13 1:37:24 PM from Iowa, USA
Not on the whole multi-shot vs one-shot thing.
"It's not that simple. We are all both, good and evil, we have rage and compassion, we have love and hate...murder and forgiveness."
What about making a crowner for the issue?
Still new. Still learning. Asking questions and making mistakes.
Does this thread still need to be open? I do not see anything else to do. The current page for Completed Fic already excludes works of a "single installment".
 
 215 StarSword, Mon, 11th Nov '13 10:12:02 AM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
I think we're down to the example mining stage and can hand this off to Long-Term Projects.
 216 shoboni, Mon, 11th Nov '13 6:45:48 PM from Iowa, USA
Works for me, want me to make the thread(or do we have one?)
"It's not that simple. We are all both, good and evil, we have rage and compassion, we have love and hate...murder and forgiveness."
 217 Septimus Heap, Mon, 11th Nov '13 11:16:50 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
This sounds more like a job for Short Term Projects.

 218 Willbyr, Tue, 12th Nov '13 4:16:54 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
[up] I tend to agree.
 219 StarSword, Tue, 12th Nov '13 9:29:07 AM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
Well, either way I think we're done here. If there are no objections I'll call for a thread lock after I get done eating lunch.
The system doesn't know you right now, so no post button for you.
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