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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#201: Aug 11th 2013 at 1:50:08 PM

I say we go by what's easier, and two index is better than having three due to some arbitrary technicality. Length is length regardless of how chopped up it is. I say it should go this way:

One-Shot: Any fic below a certain word count that's posted all at once.

Completed Fic: Any fic that's above or a certain word count or posted over time.

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#202: Aug 11th 2013 at 2:24:10 PM

Okay. I won't worry about going back through those. I thought I saw one that was only three chapters, but it was just incomplete. I'll bring up an example of one if I see it.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#203: Aug 11th 2013 at 2:40:43 PM

Okay, here is an example of a short fic with multiple chapters released all at once: Out In The Cold. There are four chapters, 23,500 words, and posted all at once. Is that a One-Shot?

Oh, and Pattycakes is actually a two-parter.

I'm making a note if a fanfic has multiple chapters.

edited 11th Aug '13 3:02:41 PM by Rethkir

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#204: Aug 11th 2013 at 2:49:25 PM

I'd say it's a one-shot.

On Pattycakes, I'd almost say that's two separate works that go back to back, like the Karate Kid parts 1&II told one continuous story. So I 'd about say it's two One-Shots that go back-to-back.

edited 11th Aug '13 2:50:26 PM by shoboni

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#205: Aug 11th 2013 at 3:33:02 PM

shoboni, we're not here to decide on a definition of the term One Shot. If it's used as "one-chapter fanfic," then that's what we need to treat it as, not come up with arbitrary wordcount limits.

edited 11th Aug '13 3:33:39 PM by Discar

shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#206: Aug 11th 2013 at 3:34:56 PM

I'm just trying to make things easier by not throwing more subtropes into the mess when they're not needed. God only knows the problems we've had on TRS due to tropes with just very small, fine print differences(like Expy and it's related tropes)

edited 11th Aug '13 3:41:28 PM by shoboni

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#207: Aug 14th 2013 at 8:23:31 AM

I agree that when the term is pre-existing we absolutely need to sync up with how it's used.

I'd say that a one-shot is any fic that was written "in one shot" — whether or not it contains official chapter breaks is technically irrelevant to this, but the important part is it was composed all at once.

Of course, it's also true that writers may commingle "chapter" with "writing session", so most one-shots are by definition "one chapter"....

edited 14th Aug '13 8:32:23 AM by Stratadrake

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#208: Aug 14th 2013 at 9:08:06 AM

I'm just worried about possible problems in the future if we two tropes that close.

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#209: Aug 14th 2013 at 9:58:18 AM

In the meantime, I'm indicating if a fic has multiple parts, but would otherwise be a one-shot in YKTTW.

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#210: Aug 14th 2013 at 6:31:22 PM

If it was uploaded in chunks it's a completed fic.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#211: Sep 15th 2013 at 1:22:10 AM

So, has there been any progress here?

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#212: Sep 15th 2013 at 1:37:24 PM

Not on the whole multi-shot vs one-shot thing.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#213: Oct 7th 2013 at 11:37:04 AM

What about making a crowner for the issue?

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Kernigh Since: Sep, 2012
#214: Nov 4th 2013 at 2:39:19 PM

Does this thread still need to be open? I do not see anything else to do. The current page for Completed Fic already excludes works of a "single installment".

StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#215: Nov 11th 2013 at 10:12:02 AM

I think we're down to the example mining stage and can hand this off to Long-Term Projects.

shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#216: Nov 11th 2013 at 6:45:48 PM

Works for me, want me to make the thread(or do we have one?)

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#217: Nov 11th 2013 at 11:16:50 PM

This sounds more like a job for Short Term Projects.

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#219: Nov 12th 2013 at 9:29:07 AM

Well, either way I think we're done here. If there are no objections I'll call for a thread lock after I get done eating lunch.

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