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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#26: Aug 6th 2013 at 11:45:02 AM

Bump for votes.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#27: Aug 6th 2013 at 12:06:33 PM

I oppose renaming OMBP to Forgotten Birthday because most of the times I see that trope in action, it's less about "forgetting" and more about "I don't like that guy, I don't want to go."

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#28: Aug 6th 2013 at 12:11:50 PM

Probably better to say "the on-page examples are ambiguous". Otherwise, we could just split that too into "forgotten" and "lone" birthday.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#29: Aug 6th 2013 at 1:36:38 PM

I'd be down for making a new Forgotten Birthday for a literal forgotten birthday, and leaving One-Person Birthday Party as-is. Along with moving the Fake Forgotten Birthday trope to a new page.

Is it too late to add a new thing to the crowner?

edited 6th Aug '13 1:37:31 PM by Larkmarn

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#30: Aug 6th 2013 at 1:38:14 PM

^Go ahead. No rules against it.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#31: Aug 6th 2013 at 1:42:30 PM

Also, looking at the discussion of One-Person Birthday Party was created in May/June 2013. Seems like we can hold off on changing that.

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MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#32: Aug 13th 2013 at 9:43:26 PM

Only one option in green has no opposition.

Create new trope for a literal forgotten birthday, rename Forgotten Birthday to something else (name TBD), leave One Person Birthday Party as-is: 6

edited 13th Aug '13 9:44:11 PM by MikuruFan

MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#33: Aug 31st 2013 at 2:45:33 PM

Bump again. No new votes for the most popular option... Who's going to write the descriptions for the tropes?

edited 31st Aug '13 2:46:56 PM by MikuruFan

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#35: Sep 27th 2013 at 6:04:27 PM

I wish I'd looked at this thread earlier. Where is the option for redefining Forgotten Birthday to be an actual forgotten birthday?

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#36: Sep 27th 2013 at 11:40:59 PM

I have two questions. How would a literal forgotten birthday not be covered by One-Person Birthday Party? OPBP is after all, "when someone has only themselves to celebrate their birthday with." What would the laconic version be of the something else that Forgotten Birthday would be renamed to?

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#37: Sep 28th 2013 at 12:29:12 AM

[up][up] two choices:

  • Rename One-Person Birthday Party to Forgotten Birthday, rename Forgotten Birthday to something else (name TBD)
  • Turn Forgotten Birthday into a disambiguation for the following three tropes: Create new trope for a literal forgotten birthday (name TBD), rename Forgotten Birthday to something else (name TBD), leave One Person Birthday Party as-is.

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MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#38: Oct 24th 2013 at 5:02:34 PM

One option has no opposition, but only has 10 votes.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#39: Nov 6th 2013 at 5:20:48 AM

Bump for votes. This seems like a relatively simple fix.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#40: Dec 6th 2013 at 1:16:38 AM

Votes count:

All else in red.

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#41: Dec 9th 2013 at 6:41:19 PM

Calling for the winning option.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#42: Dec 24th 2013 at 4:42:59 AM

I'll have to move here. I've made the Alt Names crowner (no name suggestions so far, so no hooking request right now) and I submit the following as a description proposal for Forgotten Birthday - I'll freely note that it needs more sap:

Sometimes, characters forget someone's birthday. That someone is usually heavily disappointed by it.

Can be an indication that the character is not well-liked by other characters.

One-Person Birthday Party sometimes ensues.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#43: Jan 24th 2014 at 12:16:55 AM

Bumping. We need more input here.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#45: Feb 7th 2014 at 11:25:09 PM

I like the second one of those.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#46: Mar 8th 2014 at 5:44:55 AM

Alt titles crowner is hooked.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#47: May 10th 2014 at 2:12:55 AM

Votes bump; Disappointment Before Surprise is the only one in green with 11-2.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#48: May 18th 2014 at 2:48:11 PM

It's the only one in there, but it's really vague and not a great name.

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GingerSnaps Tired forever. Since: Mar, 2011
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#49: May 21st 2014 at 11:29:01 PM

Bump. Disappointment Before Surprise and Not-So-Forgotten Birthday are currently tied, we need a couple more votes.

What is this "sleep" you speak of?
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#50: Jun 22nd 2014 at 12:28:37 AM

Votes bump!

All else in red.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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