Duplicate Trope: Second Super Identity

Deadlock Clock: 6th Aug 2013 11:59:00 PM
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1 Larkmarn16th Jun 2013 11:28:29 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Identity Impersonator is covered by the second definition of Second Super-Identity. Given II has more than twice as many wicks, I say cut the bit about type II on SSI, and then make a mention that it's related at the end.

2 SeptimusHeap16th Jun 2013 11:31:12 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
I moved the thread tag over to the other page.
3 DonaldthePotholer22nd Jun 2013 10:51:33 AM from Somewhere in (not)Miami
Upon review, Agreed.

The question at hand is "is the motive behind the impersonation a significant distinction?" At this point, my answer is "Perhaps, but we already have Frameup for the 'discredit' route, so that Sub-Trope can be sent there; the only alternative Sub-Trope other than II's original purpose is 'profit off of a hero's deeds/coattails,' which, while significant enough to cite, is not significant enough of a Trope on its own."

So yeah, move Type 2 to Identity Impersonator except for those examples where the impersonated Hero is being discredited/framed, putting those examples under Frameup.

edited 22nd Jun '13 10:52:30 AM by DonaldthePotholer

4 SeptimusHeap22nd Jun 2013 01:44:19 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
I am on board with this semi-split-and-merge proposal. How much consensus will we need for this?
5 Spark923rd Jun 2013 12:57:33 AM from Castle Wulfenbach , Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
I agree to itt.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Identity Impersonator is consensual on the part of the costumed hero, though. The very last line of the description links to Costume Copycat, which is when someone else takes the identity to steal their reputation.

The description for type II Second Super-Identity sounds like both.

edited 1st Jul '13 9:40:35 PM by MikuruFan

Wasn't post 3 mostly about that distinction?
Yes, but it referred to the Frameup trope, not Costume Copycat.

Frameup is for crimes anyway.

edited 1st Jul '13 10:01:07 PM by MikuruFan

10 SeptimusHeap3rd Jul 2013 05:18:08 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
That is a reason to do a partial three-way split.
11 Willbyr3rd Aug 2013 07:11:46 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Clock is set.
12 StarSword6th Aug 2013 11:02:45 AM from somewhere in deep space , Relationship Status: In denial
You are of Bajor.
*picks absently at loose thread*
13 Larkmarn6th Aug 2013 11:47:30 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
So if I'm reading this right, seems like people are supporting:

Am I missing anything?

EDIT: Changed Frameup to Costume Copycat.

edited 6th Aug '13 12:01:12 PM by Larkmarn

14 SeptimusHeap6th Aug 2013 11:58:13 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Pretty much (except with Costume Copycat instead of Frame-Up since that one's for crimes).
Are we still doing this or whaaaat.

Let's crowner this.

[up][up] I don't think those two options are mutually exclusive.

edited 12th Aug '13 5:55:08 PM by MikuruFan

Yeah, I think there's only one suggestion out there.
17 SeptimusHeap13th Aug 2013 12:26:11 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Actually, nobody disagreed with this, so I would just be OK with getting more voices in support and do it.
18 Larkmarn13th Aug 2013 05:19:53 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Well, I'm clearly for it.
I support this as well.
20 SeptimusHeap2nd Oct 2013 03:58:22 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
It's been a month, so barring any last minute disagreements I'll do the change soon.
21 SeptimusHeap5th Oct 2013 04:21:04 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Did the change, moved the examples off and updated the wicks.
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