I moved the thread tag over to the other page.
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Upon review, Agreed.
The question at hand is "is the motive behind the impersonation a significant distinction?" At this point, my answer is "Perhaps, but we already have Frameup for the 'discredit' route, so that Sub-Trope can be sent there; the only alternative Sub-Trope other than II's original purpose is 'profit off of a hero's deeds/coattails,' which, while significant enough to cite, is not significant enough of a Trope on its own."
So yeah, move Type 2 to Identity Impersonator except for those examples where the impersonated Hero is being discredited/framed, putting those examples under Frameup.
edited 22nd Jun '13 10:52:30 AM by DonaldthePotholer
I am on board with this semi-split-and-merge proposal. How much consensus will we need for this?
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Identity Impersonator is consensual on the part of the costumed hero, though. The very last line of the description links to Costume Copycat, which is when someone else takes the identity to steal their reputation.
The description for type II Second Super-Identity sounds like both.
edited 1st Jul '13 9:40:35 PM by MikuruFan
Wasn't post 3 mostly about that distinction?
Yes, but it referred to the Frameup trope, not Costume Copycat.
Frameup is for crimes anyway.
edited 1st Jul '13 10:01:07 PM by MikuruFan
That is a reason to do a partial three-way split.
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Hi
Clock is set.
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*picks absently at loose thread*
So if I'm reading this right, seems like people are supporting:
- Cutting Type II on Second Super-Identity
- Redistributing examples between it, Identity Impersonator, and Costume Copycat.
Am I missing anything?
EDIT: Changed Frameup to Costume Copycat.
edited 6th Aug '13 12:01:12 PM by Larkmarn
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Pretty much (except with Costume Copycat instead of Frame-Up since that one's for crimes).
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Are we still doing this or whaaaat.
Let's crowner this.
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I don't think those two options are mutually exclusive.
edited 12th Aug '13 5:55:08 PM by MikuruFan
Yeah, I think there's only one suggestion out there.
Actually, nobody disagreed with this, so I would just be OK with getting more voices in support and do it.
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Well, I'm clearly for it.
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I support this as well.
It's been a month, so barring any last minute disagreements I'll do the change soon.
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Did the change, moved the examples off and updated the wicks.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Identity Impersonator is covered by the second definition of Second Super-Identity. Given II has more than twice as many wicks, I say cut the bit about type II on SSI, and then make a mention that it's related at the end.
Thoughts?
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