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Duplicate Trope: Second Super Identity get usage counts

 1 Larkmarn, Sun, 16th Jun '13 11:28:29 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Identity Impersonator is covered by the second definition of Second Super-Identity. Given II has more than twice as many wicks, I say cut the bit about type II on SSI, and then make a mention that it's related at the end.

Thoughts?

 2 Septimus Heap, Sun, 16th Jun '13 11:31:12 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
I moved the thread tag over to the other page.

 3 Donaldthe Potholer, Sat, 22nd Jun '13 10:51:33 AM from Somewhere in (not)Miami
Upon review, Agreed.

The question at hand is "is the motive behind the impersonation a significant distinction?" At this point, my answer is "Perhaps, but we already have Frameup for the 'discredit' route, so that Sub-Trope can be sent there; the only alternative Sub-Trope other than II's original purpose is 'profit off of a hero's deeds/coattails, ' which, while significant enough to cite, is not significant enough of a Trope on its own."

So yeah, move Type 2 to Identity Impersonator except for those examples where the impersonated Hero is being discredited/framed, putting those examples under Frameup.

edited 22nd Jun '13 10:52:30 AM by DonaldthePotholer

 4 Septimus Heap, Sat, 22nd Jun '13 1:44:19 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
I am on board with this semi-split-and-merge proposal. How much consensus will we need for this?

 5 Spark 9, Sun, 23rd Jun '13 12:57:33 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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Identity Impersonator is consensual on the part of the costumed hero, though. The very last line of the description links to Costume Copycat, which is when someone else takes the identity to steal their reputation.

The description for type II Second Super-Identity sounds like both.

edited 1st Jul '13 9:40:35 PM by MikuruFan

Wasn't post 3 mostly about that distinction?

Yes, but it referred to the Frameup trope, not Costume Copycat.

Frameup is for crimes anyway.

edited 1st Jul '13 10:01:07 PM by MikuruFan

 10 Septimus Heap, Wed, 3rd Jul '13 5:18:08 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
That is a reason to do a partial three-way split.

 11 Willbyr, Sat, 3rd Aug '13 7:11:46 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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Clock is set.
 12 StarSword, Tue, 6th Aug '13 11:02:45 AM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
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*picks absently at loose thread*
 13 Larkmarn, Tue, 6th Aug '13 11:47:30 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
So if I'm reading this right, seems like people are supporting:

Am I missing anything?

EDIT: Changed Frameup to Costume Copycat.

edited 6th Aug '13 12:01:12 PM by Larkmarn

 14 Septimus Heap, Tue, 6th Aug '13 11:58:13 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
Pretty much (except with Costume Copycat instead of Frame-Up since that one's for crimes).

Are we still doing this or whaaaat.

Let's crowner this.

[up][up] I don't think those two options are mutually exclusive.

edited 12th Aug '13 5:55:08 PM by MikuruFan

Yeah, I think there's only one suggestion out there.

 17 Septimus Heap, Tue, 13th Aug '13 12:26:11 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
Actually, nobody disagreed with this, so I would just be OK with getting more voices in support and do it.

 18 Larkmarn, Tue, 13th Aug '13 5:19:53 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Well, I'm clearly for it.

I support this as well.

 20 Septimus Heap, Wed, 2nd Oct '13 3:58:22 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
It's been a month, so barring any last minute disagreements I'll do the change soon.

 21 Septimus Heap, Sat, 5th Oct '13 4:21:04 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
Did the change, moved the examples off and updated the wicks.

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