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CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
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#1: Jun 13th 2013 at 8:06:24 PM

This trope just recently went through repair shops, and one of the things that came up is that the image isn't actually an example of the trope. The image is actually an example of an Open Secret, and I suspect that it has contributed to some of the misuse that plagued Everybody Knew Already before it was renamed.

I propose that we move the image from this trope over to Open Secret.

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RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Jun 13th 2013 at 8:18:27 PM

Agreed — we can almost certainly find a better illustration, anyway.

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#3: Jun 13th 2013 at 10:27:23 PM

Yes, definitely. The example I always think about with this image is Torchwood. They're "top secret", but they have a clearly marked SUV and they get pizza deliveries. This example, and the others that fit the description, were moved to Open Secret. So too, should the image.

edited 13th Jun '13 10:30:05 PM by Rethkir

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
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#5: Jun 13th 2013 at 11:30:02 PM

It's been moved. If anyone has any suggestions for possible images for this trope, fire away. Otherwise, there really isn't much to do here.

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#6: Jun 14th 2013 at 7:26:50 PM

Here's some options.

edited 14th Jun '13 7:27:49 PM by Willbyr

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#7: Jun 14th 2013 at 8:02:40 PM

The first one doesn't make sense, and as for the other two, this is another one of those that we can't do without some words, isn't it?

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#8: Jun 15th 2013 at 5:26:18 AM

[up] I don't see a way to avoid it.

Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#9: Jun 16th 2013 at 1:27:20 PM

6.1 works and gets the "everybody" part across. 6.2 doesn't really.

RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
#10: Jun 16th 2013 at 7:32:51 PM

Neither of them is all that clear an illustration, I think.

RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Jul 5th 2013 at 2:37:00 PM

Bumping (mostly out of boredom): is anyone familiar enough with Dragon Tails to find the Lemuel-crushing-on-Firewing example? Maybe that will be the lucky example with a good image.

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#12: Jul 5th 2013 at 4:43:33 PM

None of these have the picture (as opposed to text) really showing anything about the trope. I say to keep Blank Until Pretty Kick Ass Image Suggested.

RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
#13: Jul 5th 2013 at 5:39:30 PM

I think that's reasonable.

Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#14: Jul 7th 2013 at 12:12:29 PM

I disagree, the expressions in 6.1 do help in showing the trope, and I suggest we use that image.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#15: Jul 7th 2013 at 12:31:07 PM

I think 6.1 works. The text is a little unclear, but that aside, it clearly illustrates the trope.

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#16: Jul 7th 2013 at 10:26:42 PM

It illustrates that the girl is ashamed of the other girl because of the wacky outfit? How do we tell what it is that everybody already knew?

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#17: Jul 7th 2013 at 10:30:05 PM

Seems like someone would have to willfully misinterpret the dialogue to get anything but "the non-secret is that she is gay" out of that.

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CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
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#18: Jul 7th 2013 at 11:52:17 PM

I think 6.1 is better than no image. It gets the point across well enough.

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RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
#19: Jul 8th 2013 at 12:00:10 PM

I'd vote against it, honestly. The dialogue seems kinda clumsy to me, actually.

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#20: Jul 8th 2013 at 12:13:22 PM

I need to take a look at the source comic for 6.1 and see if what's happening off-panel in the second part would make the bottom make more sense.

RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
#21: Jul 8th 2013 at 1:28:19 PM

Comic. The missing lines are Mecha Maid saying "How do you think that makes me feel? Is holding my hand in public that goddamn terrible?" and Spinnerette saying "Mecha Maid ... please..."

Nothing that really affects the delivery in my opinion.

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#22: Jul 8th 2013 at 7:13:31 PM

[up] Thanks...that makes less sense than what's currently in the pic, so that means less work for me to rebuild it. smile

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Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#24: Jul 29th 2013 at 8:01:22 AM

I think we should crowner this.

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29th Jul '13 11:09:01 AM

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