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I've complained about this page several years ago in the discussion page but there was no reply, so I'll try the repair shop. This trope is misguided to the core. First, in both the description and the examples, Techno is used as a catch-all term for electronic music (especially the "dark" kind) when it's only the name of a certain kind of it. Trance, Breakbeat, Synth-pop and Ambient are entirely different genres. Even if we change the name to "Cyberpunk is Electronic Music", the trope still wouldn't make sense. Metal and orchestral music are present in cyberpunk films just as often as electronic music, if not more. Also, electronic soundtracks (whether ambient or upbeat) aren't limited to Cyberpunk, or even to Sci-Fi in general. You can hear electronic beats and soundscapes in many action movies and TV series made in or after the 80's, especially in productions not fancy enough to incorporate an orchestra. And I'm not even starting on video games. Ironically, this page has quite a few examples of non-cyberpunk works with electronic soundtracks.
ZzzzzzzzzzWow. I'd have to agree. The description says "a cyberpunk work will use Techno music heavily or exclusively" and the examples are full of "This work uses some Techno, but there's also a bunch of other types" or "This work doesn't use Techno at all". It might be salvageable with a different name and a complete rewrite that is less didactic, less universally phrased. Might be.
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Christmas wormsHmm, this has only 44 inbounds. It basically claims to be a Trope In Aggregate, but judging by the example list, it's not really - I would cut this.
Gentleman Troper!I fail to see how this is a trope. Some cyber punk movies include some techno music, and some People Sit on Chairs too.
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No, the other one.Well, electronic music does give a more futuristic feel than instrumental music. It's sort of like having a dystopian future look dark, like Gotham, and a brighter future bright, like Metropolis. But none of those are always true. It's definitely a pattern that exists, but not a clear cut one. A stronger pattern is probably the absence of electronical music in historical or fantasty settings.
edited 11th Jun '13 10:56:28 PM by AnotherDuck
seems like a related concept to Sound Coded Settings http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=xutrz2ja024nv58ucqfe54r2
Christmas wormsDied to lack of interest?
and lack of technical terms. we'd need music major / composer / sound editor to take that one up
edited 18th Jun '13 3:02:00 PM by acrobox
Christmas wormsI wonder if we can merge this into that YKTTW.
maybe. I think its tropeworthy, it just needs a lot of Wiki Magic, and I am not the one to give it.
SF-81A Black KnightMaybe put a request into the Music forum to see if anyone wants to help with Sound Coded Settings.
edited 2nd Jul '13 8:08:31 PM by StarSword
the it-thingyI think this is trying to be a soundtrack-centric version of Post Apocalypse Punk. EDIT: Oh, whatever the name of that trope is.
edited 2nd Jul '13 8:12:48 PM by Noaqiyeum
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Cesare ImpersonatorI think there's definitely a link between a work having a futuristic setting (not necessarily Cyber Punk) and the soundtrack being heavily electronic, but it isn't universal on either end. And I'd say the current trope name has it the wrong way round: electronic music enhances the futuristic feel of a setting, but futuristic settings often use other types of music.
Here's a list of some non-sci-fi movies with predominantly electronic soundtracks that I have watched:
No, the other one.I basically read that post as confirmation bias. A rather narrow sample of films that confirms what you believe. If you divide all films into sci-fi and non-sci-fi, and then divide those two groups into music styles, I'd believe you'd find a larger percentage of electronic music in the sci-fi group.
I don't see how this is a trope either. A broader trope on how genres or settings are associated with music would make a useful trope, especially a video game trope.
Christmas wormsI am not familiar enough about music usage in fiction to gauge its tropeworthiness. Also, if we keep/remake this in any way, it will have to follow the Tropes In Aggregate format - it's not a trope in a single work, it's a multi-work trend.
No, the other one.I think it's definitely a trope, but I don't think the troper base is capable of handling it.
@Mikurufan I think I can make a YKTTW for that, but I need help with a description.
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@Another Duck: The point of my list was to refute Cameoflage's argument that electronic music necessarily gives a futuristic feel. I agree with your statistical assessment, but correlation does not imply causation. The setting is only one of the factors that determine a show's soundtrack. Other factors like the genre (action/thriller/etc), the budget and the year in which it was made are just as influential, if not more. Anyway, there is already a trope for electronic music that really is futuristic: Future Music.
I don't know much about this subject, but given the arguments in this thread so far, I'd be fine with a cut.
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