drunk bunny
Also, he wasn't the first to theorize all this. Not that I blame him, but this community is voracious.
feeling blue
We now have a Lesser Dog scarf
And a physical version of the Undertale OST
The second one is interesting because apparently it includes a song called Dog Dating and a remix of Dating Start and Undertale.
Court Dragon
The crumbling towers in that domino video were a nice touch.
I have a message from another time...
Also, it's Inverted Fate's first anniversary (well, was). It's been a fun read so far; I'm definitely looking forwards to seeing more.
Icon by Civvi the Civilian!
Funny but not helpful
That last link was not okay. For my heart.
Undyne swims with a new friend
Pixel art, mostly Undertale
Would you hug a ghost?
Buff robot fish, from Storyshift
Skelebros
Colossaltale
Probably is going to involve an awkward conversation
GF hug
3 points
You're fired
>Implying
So might I ask
exactly
what on earth
this is all about.
I know that Undertale and FNAF are notorious for having fanbases who love to write theories but... what the hell.
The only thing I understood out of this is "there's some unknown value in the game that can be manipulated through hacking that provides access to cut content which supposedly provides more lore and backstory to the game, except rather than shuck all of this into non-canon territory fans treat it seriously because not all of it was completely removed from the game."
It sounded interesting at first when I glimpsed at the trope page for Gaster, but it sounds like the Herobrine rumor the more and more I read about it. Do these figures actually appear in game without exposing some kind of hidden/cut room?
edited 12th Mar '17 7:22:41 PM by Soble
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
It wasn't "cut content", is the thing. It was deliberately set up that way as part of the game's whole meta screwery.
edited 12th Mar '17 7:23:46 PM by Perseus
Trans rights are human rights.
From the way the wiki is wording it, calling every room "Room Number-something" it doesn't sound like content that can actually be accessed in-game. Part of the article even mentions a "removed corridor."
If it can only be accessed through special software, and if Toby isn't providing any actual explanation then it sounds like cut content to me. What has Toby said about it?
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Given the heavy meta commentary that Undertale engages in, are you suggesting it doesn't seem plausible for Toby to have included inaccessible rooms knowing full well people would dig through it all?
Besides, a later patch enabled some Gaster-related content to rarely appear randomly without touching the files at all, so...
edited 12th Mar '17 7:32:08 PM by Perseus
Trans rights are human rights.
Not really a lord of anything
Given the dialogue that goes: "Alphys might work faster. But the old Royal Scientist, Doctor W.D. Gaster? One day, he vanished without a trace. They say he shattered across time and space. Ha Ha... how can I say so without fear? I'm holding a piece of him right here."
It's pretty obvious that this is all planned.
edited 12th Mar '17 7:30:57 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.
Yeah the story to the "cut content" revolves around a character who once existed in the world but after an incident was deleted from it. It's pretty obviously an intentional meta thing, the same way a bunch of other gamey mechanics are contextualized in-universe.
Bird mom
There is actual cut content that has nothing to do with Gaster however.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
It sounds ridiculous and it's a lot to take in.
There's a lot of Leaning on the Fourth Wall in Undertale, sure, but all of it's right in front of you, waiting to be found through natural progression. When Flowey erases your files and "possesses" your game, yes, he can do that, but that's a part of his boss battle. It doesn't require the player to go into another program and find the room on their own.
And I gather is that Toby hasn't said anything on Gaster and has left it up in the air. Keeping some lines pertaining to a character and then forcing the player to access a series of rooms, most of which would be passed off as dummied content in anything else, to find small clues that lead to nothing more than small nuggets of inconclusive information - that's a frustrating way to fracture a story.
I'd be less bothered if it weren't something I found on a page called "inaccessible rooms 123-335." Even FNAF with it's seemingly pointless minigames was alluding to some aspect of the game and these games were functional on their own. Room 335 is just a room that crashes when it tries to load the name screen.
"Ah but it was just supposed to highlight the 'meta' nature of the game by sneaking in a character's weird backstory and contextualizing it as an instance of the fourth-wall breaking. Gaster hasn't just stepped out of the game's reality, he's actually inside the game's files oooh."
Long rant short
Flowey? That was a cool fourth-wall break.
Gaster? That's a riddle wrapped inside of a creepypasta.
And that's what really bugs me. Sticking what more or less seems to be cut/dummied-out content next to vague game lore. Like there is no way that some of those rooms were supposed to mean anything, and yet there they are, listed right next to rooms that pertain to Gaster.
edited 12th Mar '17 7:55:13 PM by Soble
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Like reflections in the glass!
But overall Undertale is very Post Modern. The mechanics exist in universe and are contextualized, the Gaster related content, that character's opinion on you from certain actions assume the perspective of a gamer and their player character, and I'm pretty sure the forth wall is often Leaned on.
If you don't like the concept that's fine, but the point is it's quite clearly more than just fans pulling stuff out of their asses.
edited 12th Mar '17 7:56:59 PM by Perseus
Trans rights are human rights.
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-respectful nod- No no, I get that, fair enough. It certainly seemed that way which is why I brought it up (so, heck, +1 Undertale, -1 FNAF)
But good god do I hate the concept now. FNAF did it, Undertale did it, Dark Souls (not an indie game, granted) kind of does it but doesn't hide lore inside of the game files.
Though I suppose it's either that or shoving lore into a spin-off webcomic series. That's what major AAA titles do.
edited 12th Mar '17 8:01:03 PM by Soble
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
...Not to say that that ridiculous overanalysis isn't still a thing, because lmao.
Trans rights are human rights.
The way it works is that when you start a new game a hidden stat "fun" is randomly assigned from 1 to 100. On certain numbers different events might happen, like Alphys calling to order pizza or an encounter with Gaster Follower #2. However due to a glitch the original game would not trigger the events unless you went into the files and capitalized the stat "Fun" (and hey, might as well play around with what numbers trigger what while you're there). After the patch, "fun" works properly and every player has a chance of encountering something creepy, as was always intended.
Also people have totally found brand new lore by looking into Dark Souls files.
edited 12th Mar '17 8:07:04 PM by Moth13
feeling blue
The Gaster stuff is basically meant to be random, rare events that might happen in the game. All the NP Cs that give the dialogue lore are possible to be encountered in the game so I think the only piece of lore that you can't access normally is Gaster's entry 17. I might be wrong though.
Funny but not helpful
Gentleman Adventurer!
It's also worth noting that it's not like all dummied out content is associated with Gaster or treated as canon. For instance there's a dummied out RG3 and RG4 who appear to have been meant as an alternative to RG1 and RG2 (with different dialog and acts but it's mechanically the same). People might have found that mildly interesting as something that could have been, but noone treats it as canon.
If you pay attention it's not hard to tell the difference between the intentionally hidden lore and actual "cut" content that has nothing to do with canon.
edited 15th Mar '17 4:31:00 AM by Brickman
Your funny quote here! (Maybe)
Cards to trade, Judges to Dodge
No idea if this one's been shared or not, but I'd highly suggest checking out the Caretaker AU. Has some great art, and updates regularly.
Razzin-Frazzin Robot
Here's a fic I wrote about Muffet teaching Frisk how to bake.
