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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#9151: Apr 10th 2017 at 2:18:22 PM

Crystal Skull wasn't as bad as everyone says, but he got way too much creative freedom over the Star Wars prequels and they suffered due to that. Lucas was at one point pretty good, and then he was given too much freedom and his ego went up a bit.

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#9152: Apr 10th 2017 at 3:09:51 PM

I dont know why Odd 1 but that "No worries" made my day. Thank you.

Also, while I dont really love all the recent George Lucas offerings, its sad that in life you can make awesome stuff, but your reputation will always be linked to your most recent failure.

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#9153: Apr 11th 2017 at 11:17:23 AM

[up]I'm glad it made you happy.

But anyway, when he's dead and buried, history will remember his more positive achievements and accomplishments more than his more regrettable later work. That's how it goes for everyone famous.

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#9155: Apr 11th 2017 at 2:37:07 PM

I don't know who that is.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#9157: Apr 11th 2017 at 2:54:21 PM

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Host of Top of the Pops for several decades and of children's show Jim'll Fix It and an enormous pedophile whose crimes were covered up by the BBC.

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#9158: Apr 11th 2017 at 5:42:32 PM

oh

Welp

The things you miss out on being American.

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#9159: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:03:33 PM

That seems different, though. He was discovered to be a despicable person in real life, not just someone who eventually lost his touch as an artist.

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#9160: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:20:29 PM

[up][up] No, you really aren't missing much because you're American. You aren't really missing much at all.

Supposedly Donald Duck comics are much better in other languages, but you should take that with a grain of salt.

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#9161: Apr 11th 2017 at 7:18:58 PM

I wouldn't really call a public conspiracy to hide a pedophile's crimes "not much".

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#9162: Apr 11th 2017 at 7:46:25 PM

Didn't his American counterpart have a statue at a Disney park that was removed for obvious reasons? He'll probably be another exception to the Dead Artists Are Better rule.

edited 11th Apr '17 7:47:48 PM by Smasher

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#9163: Apr 12th 2017 at 6:23:37 AM

Who was his American counterpart?

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#9164: Apr 12th 2017 at 8:01:59 AM

Closest American equivalents I can think of are Dick Clark and Ed Sullivan, and I guess in this modern era Ryan Seacrest, and I can't think of any scandals involving any of them.

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#9166: Apr 12th 2017 at 8:22:50 AM

I would assume Bill Cosby, who had a similar family-friendly image ruined by a gigantic scandal, and who did get his statue taken out of the Disney-MGM Studios, or whatever they call it now.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#9167: Apr 12th 2017 at 9:19:20 AM

However much you may dislike George Lucas, comparing him to a pedophile or a rapist seems a bit much.

I still don't care for the designation of him or any other people involved with Star Wars or Marvel as "Disney legends" because I see it as borderline historical revisionism.

edited 12th Apr '17 9:38:54 AM by DrDougsh

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#9168: Apr 12th 2017 at 10:04:59 AM

I can understand assigning the title to people who helped shape Marvel & Lucasfilm while they were under Disney (e.g. Kevin Feige), but not if they did most of their work before then.

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#9169: Apr 12th 2017 at 10:28:06 AM

[up][up] Which is the point I was about to get to... I have no problem with this, but at heart, it's meaningless. Stan Lee, Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher and George Lucas - and much as I hate to say it, Jim Henson - are all legends, true. But they aren't Disney legends. Not really. They did barely anything for Disney, and their inclusion in this group are largely because Disney owns Star Wars and Marvel, and everyone loves Star Wars and Marvel. (Jury's out on the Muppets, though.)

[up] Those would mostly be executives, and nobody gives a damn about executives except other executives. The creative people are the folks you actually care about.

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#9170: Apr 12th 2017 at 10:37:19 AM

I think people forget that Star Wars DID contribute something huge to the park in the pre-owned days: Star Tours.

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#9171: Apr 12th 2017 at 10:41:01 AM

If they were honest, they'd dub Bob Iger a Disney legend.

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#9172: Apr 12th 2017 at 11:00:20 AM

Honestly? I'd say that'd be fine.

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#9173: Apr 12th 2017 at 12:28:24 PM

I don't think so.

For one thing, he's still the CEO. It's too early to see what his legacy will be and whether he'll deserve one when someone new has taken over. Why do you think Michael Eisner has not been named a Disney legend? Because of his legacy, which by the end was particularly shameful.

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#9174: Apr 12th 2017 at 12:54:02 PM

Eisner probably should be named a legend since the company was pretty successful in the first half or so of his reign. Maybe Katzenburg too, but he might be angry about that.

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#9175: Apr 12th 2017 at 1:27:37 PM

> which by the end was particularly shameful.

What did he do that amounted to be 'shameful'?

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